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"Gay is not sin and Jesus is not asking the gay person to change and be straight"

Today's Christians are "LAST DAYS' Christians and this means the status quo of the past 2000 yrs changes into a Last days(end times) Rapture in your lifetime, shocking and including spanking of all Christians. It means God starts moving in amazing ways. Some ways you will like other ways may make you turn your backs on him. New style messengers are being sent by God, LISTEN TO THEM!

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If you are one to think gay is sin then I expect some help from you by YOU explaining any verse you use as to how you got a word, phrase, or verse to be talking about gays. Making a statement "its in the Bible", its simple", "its clear", "God hates it", or "God said it" is not acceptable. Words evolve, but the ancient language is the language of the Bible use it to get your meanings of words.

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If you cannot love a god who would let anyone suffer forever

If you cannot love a god who would let anyone suffer forever, you can copy and paste (if necessary) the following urls into the address bar and find out that a literally (not interpretively) translated Bible actually teaches universal salvation, not even annihilation.

http://www.tentmaker.org/articles/hells_fruit.html

THE SAVIOUR OF THE WORLD

If necessary, copy and paste the following urls into the address bar.

http://www.tentmaker.org/articles/savior-of-the-world/circularity.htm

At the top and bottom of that same THE SAVIOUR OF THE WORLD page, there is the following link to fourteen other writings in the same series that are related to this same subject.

http://www.tentmaker.org/articles/savior-of-the-world/index.htm

What is your Church backgound and how long have you kown Jesus? http://www.tentmaker.org/articles/savior-of-the-world/circularity.htm

What is your age and gender and location? http://www.tentmaker.org/articles/savior-of-the-world/index.htm

WHY I BELIEVE THE BIBLE TEACHES UNIVERSAL SALVATION

WHY I BELIEVE THE BIBLE TEACHES UNIVERSAL SALVATION

http://www.tentmaker.org/articles/savior-of-the-world/index.htm

http://sigler.org/eby/savior_of_the_word_series.htm

The people who want to keep believing that the Bible proves that everyone deserves to suffer forever in hell just because they were born into this world, or because they don’t make the “right” choice before it’s “too late,” or that God created beings with a will so strong that they can irreversibly choose themselves into a state of eternal torment - these people will keep believing it because they want to.

http://www.tentmaker.org/articles/hells_fruit.html

But people who want to believe that the Bible nowhere supports such a concept of God will examine the evidence contained in HIS ACHIEVEMENT ARE WE at http://concordant.org/expohtml/HisAchievement/index.html

And also here
Information, and frequently asked questions in support of a correctly (literally, not interpretively) translated Bible teaching universal salvation,

http://www.tentmaker.org/bloglinks.htm

http://www.tentmaker.org/sitemap.html

http://www.christian-universalism.com/links.html

copy and paste into address bar if necessary

and they will learn that the Bible actually teaches universal salvation instead, not even annihilation.

Or, they will go to the search engine at the top of http://www.tentmaker.org and will type in a key word or phrase from any argument or scripture passage. Ten articles will come up refuting the claim that the Bible teaches eternal torment. Then they may click to the next page and ten more articles will come up, and so on and so on for many pages.

The many entries in my guestbook that is accessed towards the bottom of my front page

at http://greater-emmanuel.org/Hope4You/

and the many entries at http://www.tentmaker.org/visitorcomments.htm
show just how much this information is helping people.

This was the information that enabled me to recover from a twelve year nervous breakdown (1966-68), and it gives me great joy to keep learning every day that it is helping more and more other people too!! I’m 69

What is your Church backgound and how long have you kown Jesus? http://www.tentmaker.org/articles/savior-of-the-world/circularity.htm

What is your age and gender and location? http://www.tentmaker.org/articles/savior-of-the-world/index.htm