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"Gay is not sin and Jesus is not asking the gay person to change and be straight"

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Gay is not sin

13 possible translations for man in the man lays with man thing in Leviticus showing the man was a str8 man that loved sleeping with women.

At any rate, the literal translation using mishk'vey as either a gerund or a participle allows for several translations/readings, which span the spectrum in meaning. Here are several possible readings:

"And you shall not lie with a man of lyings with woman..." (g)
"And you shall not lie with a man of those lying with woman..." (p)
"And you shall not lie with a man who has lyings with woman..." (g,p)
"And you, of those lying with woman, shall not lie with a man..." (p)
"And you, of lyings with woman, shall not lie with a man..." (g)
"And you, having lyings with woman, shall not lie with a man..." (g)
"And you shall not lie with a man (as you have) lyings with woman..." (g)
"And you shall not lie with a man (like you have) lyings with woman..." (g)
"And you shall not lie with a man (while you have) lyings with woman..." (g)
"And you shall not lie in beds of woman with a man..." (g)
"And you shall not lie lyings of woman with a man..." (g)
"And you shall not lie with a man as a woman lies..." (g)
"And you shall not lie with a man as (one) lies with woman..." (g)
"And you shall not lie with a man as (you) lie with woman..." (g)
"And you shall not lie with a man as with woman..." (g)
In each translation, the manner in which the noun, mishk'vey, is interpreted is denoted by (g) for gerund, and (p) for participle.

What is your Church backgound and how long have you kown Jesus? Assemblies of God

What is your age and gender and location? 65

Re: Gay is not sin

I agree that that verb can be miss interpereted but what about the verse in 1 Corinthinans which uses "Arsenokoitai" which comes from the words arsen = “male,” and koite = “bed,” or a homosexual. I'm tired of Homosexuality looking at one verse without debunking the rest. And for a second lets humor the fact that Leviticus 20:13 speaks about homosexuality. in Leviticus 20:23 the word says, "And ye shall not walk in the manners of the nation, which I cast out before you: for they committed all these things, and therefore I abhorred them." God hates homosexuality but loves the person and doesn't want them to sin. It's similar to a father punishing a child He doesn't approve of and sometimes even can't stand what the child does but he still loves his kid. Look at the whole picture before you pick a side

What is your Church backgound and how long have you kown Jesus? United Pentecostal 12 years

What is your age and gender and location? 19 male San Antoniio Tx