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Heaven's Messenger 777
IP: 74.196.1.145 Oct 29, 07 - 7:15 PM |
Lock Down and Gun Found at BSHS
I would be willing to bet that NONE of you PARENTS were aware of a hispanic/black brawl at the High School last Friday that caused a 1/2 day lock down at the school. Not only that, the Big Spring Police Department today found a GUN in a locker of a student. Word from the kids at school has it that there was going to be a "shoot out" during the A Lunch. Also, the school was on LOCK DOWN again all day today and presumably will be the rest of the week. Why isn't KBST, KBYG and the BIG SPRING HERALD carrying this news story? |
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yellow dog
IP: 64.12.116.12 Oct 29th, 2007 - 7:20 PM |
Re: Lock Down and Gun Found at BSHS
'cuse they all SUCK at reporting the news perhaps you should bring it to there attention 
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Holy Crap
IP: 75.110.246.205 Oct 29th, 2007 - 9:21 PM |
Re: Lock Down and Gun Found at BSHS
Dear Heavens Messenger, Try getting your info right. Nothing was reported because you do not have the facts. You are the prototypical idiot that spreads a rumor you heard. God, you are such a disease to the public, it is sickening. The world is coming to an end, lockdown at the school....idiot, idiot, idiot... Believe ME! If there was a lockdown at the high school, I would know about it. Trust me. Stop reading the stars and the National Enquirer, and maybe you will quit being a worthless piece of ****. |
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Holy Crap
IP: 75.110.246.205 Oct 29th, 2007 - 9:40 PM |
Re: Lock Down and Gun Found at BSHS
God, this still ****** me off. Dear Anyone To Dumb To Think, If ANY of this was true, don't you think you would have heard about it? Really? Media, word of mouth, Heavens Messenger knocking on your door holding a bible and wearing a Harry Potter T Shirt, anything? This is my biggest problem on here. Someone says I jumped!, and then everyone else does too. |
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Heaven\'s Messenger 777
IP: 74.196.1.145 Oct 30th, 2007 - 5:20 AM |
Re: Lock Down and Gun Found at BSHS
You've said nothing to assure me that YOU would have known abou it. Frankly, I don't care if you resort to childish name calling because YOU don't have a clue and would rather accuse than going for the facts YOU claim to know but have not presented. It just goes to show how immature you are. BTW: I have a child in BSHS. I believe my child knows more than you.
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Heaven's Messenger 777
IP: 74.196.1.145 Oct 30th, 2007 - 5:23 AM |
Re: Lock Down and Gun Found at BSHS
You've said nothing to assure me that YOU would have known abou it. Frankly, I don't care if you resort to childish name calling because YOU don't have a clue and would rather accuse than going for the facts YOU claim to know but have not presented. It just goes to show how immature you are. BTW: I have a child in BSHS. I believe my child knows more than you. They were at school. And, I don't believe anything the School Administration would have to say. They are trying to keep this hushed up so Mr. Downs won't lose his job.
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Heaven\'s Messenger 777
IP: 74.196.1.145 Oct 30th, 2007 - 5:30 AM |
Re: Lock Down and Gun Found at BSHS
While I'm on a roll here: Holy Crap said: "Don't you think you would have heard about it?" Now I'm asking you .... Have you heard about every riot or problem out at the local prisons when they have occurred, and that has happened alot? Why Not? Because Cornell kept it quiet and the local Media went along with it if they knew about it, else it got reported. This is another reason why YOU didn't hear about it. Someone at the school district didn't want word getting out (for whatever reason) and as a Parent, I find it absolutely appalling that they would not mention it. Tell ya what, drive up by the High School today and try to go into the building and see if the COPS don't stop you at the door and see if they aren't all over the hallways and outside the building. 
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IP: 68.94.153.28 Oct 30th, 2007 - 7:04 AM |
Re: Lock Down and Gun Found at BSHS
Yes something was taking place at the BSHS Nov.29-2007 I was driving by the school about 9:30 a.m. and I counted 3 BSPD cars parked on the south side lot of St Mary'e Church I counted 6 BSPD officers on foot. I could see one BSPD car in front of the BSHS. Looked strange to have that many BSPD at one place. (YES SOME ONE IS REAL SICK AND IT'S NOT YOU) |
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Holy Crap
IP: 75.110.246.205 Oct 30th, 2007 - 9:02 AM |
Re: Lock Down and Gun Found at BSHS
Been to the school this morning. Got in. No problem. There was a fight at lunch the other day. A fight. OH MY GOD! STOP THE PRESSES! Lock down? Nope. You are wrong. 100 percent wrong. Fiction. |
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Heaven\'s Messenger 777
IP: 74.61.80.18 Oct 30th, 2007 - 10:55 AM |
Re: Lock Down and Gun Found at BSHS
To "Holy Crap" - For your edification, the "fight" on last Friday started between some hispanics and blacks (same old shinola). One of the coaches broke up the fight. When Monday came around, after the heat of the fight boiled all weekend, one of the kids involved brought a GUN to school. Word from kids who work in the Office was that the school marms found out that the 2 groups had planned to have a shoot out during the "A" Lunch. As a precaution, the school marms "Locked Down" the school yesterday, meaning that there was no one in the halls, all the classroom doors were "LOCKED" while school was in session. The BSPD brought in the Police Dogs to search the building and they found "a gun" in "a locker". There you have it in a nutshell. 
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Heaven\\'s Messenger 777
IP: 74.61.80.18 Oct 30th, 2007 - 11:16 AM |
Re: Lock Down and Gun Found at BSHS
HC, let me just say this to you. You don't have to agree with anything I've said here. That is your right. You also, do not have to resort to juvenile name calling and such to make your point. For your edification: I do not read "tabloids". I do not read "junk journalism". I deal only with facts, historical references and formulate my own opinions based on those facts uncovered. One has to peel away the layers of opinions when researching facts because the opinions tend to lead you in other directions than the one you happened to be searching on. I don't care what your personal opinion of me is, because it won't make or break me. But, don't you attack me in these forums again like you did as you might find yourself not able to post here anymore. Keep Personal Attacks out of the postings. 
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Franklin
IP: 65.67.224.156 Oct 30th, 2007 - 1:34 PM |
Re: Lock Down and Gun Found at BSHS
I know nothing about the gun issue, but I do know that there was a gang fight at the school. My daughter was caught up in the middle of it. One group was behind her table and the other in front of it. before she had a chance to react, the fight was on. She was struck in the face accidentally by one of the boys. You can believe what you want to, but I know what happened to her. She had the swollen face to prove it. Of course the school blow it off. We did not know about it until after school on Friday. There were plenty of witnesses, but they were kids and so to some in this world, they don't count. |
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Heaven\'s Messenger 777
IP: 74.61.80.18 Oct 30th, 2007 - 1:48 PM |
Re: Lock Down and Gun Found at BSHS
Franklin: I am sorry that your daughter was caught in the middle of the fight. I hope and pray that she is doing alright. I remember that those things used to happen in the SPRING at BSHS. I never thought that GUNS would be involved back then (late 1970's). Now days, kids think that guns solve everything. I don't blame the weapon, I blame the user of it for problem. If swords and knives were our weapons, it would be the same way. Laser beams and lightsabre's as well. |
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Franklin
IP: 65.67.224.156 Oct 30th, 2007 - 4:25 PM |
Re: Lock Down and Gun Found at BSHS
Thanks. She is alright. She was a little nervous about going back on Monday. Luckily she had a teacher that allowed her to eat her lunch in the classroom on Monday. She said everything was calm today. Of course there is still a lot of talk going around. |
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Holy Crap
IP: 75.110.246.205 Oct 30th, 2007 - 5:23 PM |
Re: Lock Down and Gun Found at BSHS
I'll say this one more time. It was a fight. That is all. Just because it was minorites does not make it a gang fight. ******* racists. |
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Heaven\\\'s Messenger 777
IP: 74.196.1.145 Oct 30th, 2007 - 5:47 PM |
Re: Lock Down and Gun Found at BSHS
The fact that minorities were involved does not make the fight a racist fight, I would agree. The fact remains that historically speaking about BSHS, every spring, the minorities usually square off in the lunch room to rumble. It happened every year I was in BSHS and it has not changed since I graduated there back in the late 70's. It also does not change the fact that hispanics and blacks generally do not get along nor like each other, and at 14-18 years of age, they much don't like anyone they can't agree with. Nuff Said ! 
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IP: 69.152.132.5 Oct 30th, 2007 - 5:55 PM |
Re: Lock Down and Gun Found at BSHS
I too am sorry your daughter was traumatized, Franklin. The Big Spring Herald article linked here* speaks of an aggressor and his would be target. One aggressor and one target, hardly a gang fight. Were there other fights which occurred Friday which have not been reported by the BSISD? The gun? If the BSISD isn't revealing the whole story, I have to wonder why. I've been asking myself this today. Could it be that might some fear that if more frank and revealing information were to come out, the mere reporting of the incident(s) might only increase the tensions? I'm not saying I buy into the don't talk about it and it will go away line of thinking. In fact, that would be a very dangerous approach, in my opinion. The parents of children attending BSHS, as well as the taxpayers, have a right to know the facts. I know it probably sounds feel-goody and some reading this might laugh, but might group counseling by psychologists, school counselors, and social workers be an appropriate and tension reducing tool? * http://www.bigspringherald.com/content/view/86322/60/ |
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Heaven\\\\'s Messenger 777
IP: 74.196.1.145 Oct 30th, 2007 - 6:14 PM |
Re: Lock Down and Gun Found at BSHS
This will probably be the most sanest comment I will ever make on this subject matter ..... If, BSHS Supt or Principal would have addressed the MEDIA in the 1st place on this matter, right after it happened, it would have dispelled the RUMOR MILL and folks would not be all upset about it. Frankly, its called DAMAGE CONTROL!
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Holy Crap
IP: 75.110.246.205 Oct 30th, 2007 - 6:32 PM |
Re: Lock Down and Gun Found at BSHS
Fights happen all the time. It is not news. Want to know how I found out if it was true? I called a few media outlets and asked them about it. They heard about it, made a few calls, and did not feel the need to report it because it is commonplace. If everyone would do that instead of SPREADING the rumors, then there would never be need for damage control. Maybe you can try that next time instead of spreading the rumor on a message board. |
mary musick
 IP: 70.247.135.38 Oct 30th, 2007 - 6:33 PM |
Re: Lock Down and Gun Found at BSHS
re fight what a difference a day makes |
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IP: 69.152.132.5 Oct 30th, 2007 - 6:43 PM |
Re: Lock Down and Gun Found at BSHS
Fights between two individuals are commonplace and usually not newsworthy, in my opinion. Fights between several individuals--gang fights--represent an escalation, and certainly might be newsworthy. Given the recent history of mass school shootings in the U.S., finding a gun at BSHS and not promptly releasing that information would be a "crime" against students, parents, and taxpayers! |
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Heaven\\\\\'s Messenger 777
IP: 74.196.1.145 Oct 30th, 2007 - 6:58 PM |
Re: Lock Down and Gun Found at BSHS
HC : What I said on this board, came straight out of the mouth of my 17 yr old who is a Sr this year at BSHS. That child has never lied to me (I am glad to say) and has earned my trust and respect because of how that child is. No, I heard nothing from the Media. That is why I posted about it in the 1st place. Had the BS School Board Members or the Administration had the Courage and the Guts to get in front of the Media in the 1st place on this matter, it would not have reached the purportions it has in the rumor mill. I spoke with a local rep from the ONLY reputable local media outlet today about this (thank you, it was not the Herald). I was informed of the facts about Friday's event and I am big enough to admit I was wrong in the what I reported as the sources, not just my child, passed information along to me when I started investigating the matter. Yes, a fight broke out between a black and hispanic student, that had been fuming for over a week. A coach got in the middle of the fight to stop it. He was struck by one of the students. The football team students in the area at the time surrounded the coach and the 2 students involved. The one who struck the coach was arrested. About the GUN .... I will find out more about this on Wednesday and report it here. HC, are you BIG ENOUGH to admit when YOU'RE WRONG ? Nuff Said! 
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mary musick
IP: 70.247.135.38 Oct 30th, 2007 - 7:18 PM |
Re: Lock Down and Gun Found at BSHS
like I said one day makes the difference. monday cops and gun at school, tuesday no gun, no cops. |
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Heaven\\\\\\'s Messenger 777
IP: 74.196.1.145 Oct 30th, 2007 - 7:36 PM |
Re: Lock Down and Gun Found at BSHS
Mary: I DID NOT SAY there were no cops and no guns. There were, IN FACT, cops at the school on Friday and on Monday. It remains to be seen about the GUN. AS I SAID, I'll have more info on that in the morning and report it accordingly. Read AGAIN! |
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mary musick
IP: 70.247.135.38 Oct 30th, 2007 - 7:44 PM |
Re: Lock Down and Gun Found at BSHS
was ewplying to hc, not you. you make sense. he doesn't. |
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Holy Crap
IP: 75.110.246.205 Oct 30th, 2007 - 7:46 PM |
Re: Lock Down and Gun Found at BSHS
HM777, maybe YOU should read. I quickly admit when I am wrong. I was just...not wrong here. NUFF SAID! P.S. I still think you are a racist. |
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Heaven\\\'s Messenger 777
IP: 74.196.1.145 Oct 30th, 2007 - 7:46 PM |
Re: Lock Down and Gun Found at BSHS
Ah Ha ! My apologies ! 
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Angel
IP: 75.111.211.138 Oct 30th, 2007 - 9:16 PM |
Re: Lock Down and Gun Found at BSHS
Sorry to inform you Heaven's Messenger but there was no gun found at the school. The K-9s that the police have are trained to sniff out and find drugs ONLY!! There WAS a large fight on Friday involoving gang members. Some the stereo-typical kind, the others wearing their football jerseys. Yes, our football players are in a gang. Also, are y'all aware that the principal has lefted the dress code? Kids are now allowed to wear the extremely baggy clothes and "show their colors" display the bandana of color choice. I agree the Herald incorrectly covered the story. Also, the kid who started the fight was arrested and taken to jail so there is no way he brought a gun to school. Also, the police officers that "babysat" all day at the high school were not even offered lunch. They were required to be there from 8a.m. until after school. No breaks. Sounds like the principal needs to get his school under control and not take our already short staffed police officers off the streets to babysit what he has created. |
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Heaven\\'s Messenger 777
IP: 74.196.1.145 Oct 30th, 2007 - 11:08 PM |
Re: Lock Down and Gun Found at BSHS
I wouldn't worry too much about the baggy clothes. The cities are taking care of that issue. I suspect Big Spring won't be far behind San Antonio, Austin, Ft Worth and Dallas in making it illegal. |
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Shannon
IP: 12.190.113.67 Oct 31st, 2007 - 10:29 AM |
Re: Lock Down and Gun Found at BSHS
Note to EVERYONE! Read the forum rules posted at the top of the forums. =Shannon= |
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mary musick
IP: 70.247.135.38 Oct 31st, 2007 - 12:33 PM |
Re: Lock Down and Gun Found at BSHS
thank you |
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Holy Crap
IP: 83.84.9.103 Oct 31st, 2007 - 1:40 PM |
Re: Lock Down and Gun Found at BSHS
Thank you indeed. We do not need people talking around here. God forbid freedom of speech lives on in a forum used to promote freedom of speech. But I digress. Rules are rules. |
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Shannon
IP: 75.110.245.118 Oct 31st, 2007 - 2:07 PM |
Re: Lock Down and Gun Found at BSHS
Simple decorum and asking someone to act like an adult is hardly a restriction of freedom of speech. Being banned from this site is not a restriction of free speech, because anyone can start their own forums elsewhere. So HC...enjoy your freedoms elsewhere and welcome to banland. =Shannon= |
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*!*
IP: 70.251.8.120 Oct 31st, 2007 - 4:22 PM |
Re: Lock Down and Gun Found at BSHS
Angel wrote: Sorry to inform you Heaven's Messenger but there was no gun found at the school. The K-9s that the police have are trained to sniff out and find drugs ONLY!! There WAS a large fight on Friday involoving gang members. Some the stereo-typical kind, the others wearing their football jerseys. Yes, our football players are in a gang." Angel, How do you know that multiple actors were involved in the Friday altercation at BSHS? What exactly do you mean when you say that the football team is a gang? Are you speaking generally, like a sociologist might? In your mind, would all football, soccer, baseball, volleyball, etc. teams be "gangs?" Heaven's Messenger 777 wrote: "I wouldn't worry too much about the baggy clothes. The cities are taking care of that issue. I suspect Big Spring won't be far behind San Antonio, Austin, Ft Worth and Dallas in making it illegal." Greetings Comrade HM777, Has the design of the new Party uniforms been finalized? Seriously, a city enforced fashion code is about the most ludicrous and freedom robbing thing I've heard lately. Thank goodness the ACLU will no doubt step in and fight the nanny state bozos on this! How is government conservative and limited when it attempt to legislate a fashion code. What happens when a heavyset person loses weight and can't afford to buy new clothes or have them altered? What happens when the gang members start wearing blue jeans and T-shirts, or business suits? Unended, amended ordinances??? Yes, thank goodness for the ACLU: http://pub45.bravenet.com/forum/3807863594/show/875062 |
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Heaven\\\\'s Messenger 777
IP: 74.196.1.145 Oct 31st, 2007 - 6:43 PM |
Re: Lock Down and Gun Found at BSHS
To "!": I would agree that a city ordinance to stop the low hanging baggy pants showin' your undies crowd might stretch a bit far on personal liberties. Frankly, I don't like seeing it and wish I had a weed whacker in hand every time I do see it. What's worse, is seeing adults wearing their clothes that way. I know the weed whacker would give them a lickin' that keeps on tickin'. |
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Angel
IP: 75.111.211.138 Oct 31st, 2007 - 9:59 PM |
Re: Lock Down and Gun Found at BSHS
I simply meant that some of the football players are associated with a gang. They display pictures of themselves in their football jerseys along with pictures of gang signs and firearms on their myspace with is their personal page, but I myself find this very disturbing. You are right there were a lot of individuals involved, but aren't the ones in sports suppose to be a role model for the others? |
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Angel
IP: 75.111.211.138 Oct 31st, 2007 - 10:06 PM |
Re: Lock Down and Gun Found at BSHS
Angel, How do you know that multiple actors were involved in the Friday altercation at BSHS? What exactly do you mean when you say that the football team is a gang? Are you speaking generally, like a sociologist might? In your mind, would all football, soccer, baseball, volleyball, etc. teams be "gangs?" I have a family member who works at BSHS who witnessed it all and another family member who attends school at BSHS. To clarify again, I do not mean all of the football team is a gang. Just those that are associated with the particular "gang" or "click" as they call it. The work "gang" is beginning to be a touchy word. Nope, not speaking as a sociologist, just the facts that for some reason are being kept a secret. |
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IP: 70.251.8.120 Nov 1st, 2007 - 2:34 AM |
Re: Lock Down and Gun Found at BSHS
I appreciate your concerns, Heaven's Messenger 777. Government censorship is not to be taken lightly, in my opinion. I'm afraid the slope into tyranny is short, steep, and slippery. Angel wrote: "To clarify again, I do not mean all of the football team is a gang. Just those that are associated with the particular "gang" or "click" as they call it. The work "gang" is beginning to be a touchy word. Nope, not speaking as a sociologist, just the facts that for some reason are being kept a secret." Thanks for your reply, Angel. High School football is BIG BUSINESS if one considers all the coaches salaries, uniforms, flowers, advertising, travel expenditures, stadium and field upkeep, etc., etc., etc. I would not be in the least bit surprised to learn that school districts tend to zealously protect their "franchises." "Cliques" aren't new and aren't necessarily a "bad" thing in my opinion. I still urge full disclosure of any and all events which have transpired on campus. |
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Angel
IP: 68.156.159.10 Nov 1st, 2007 - 9:05 AM |
Re: Lock Down and Gun Found at BSHS
Oh yes, West Texas and their football of course. I agree that the school admin should disclose everything that happened. |
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howdy doo
IP: 12.190.113.13 Nov 1st, 2007 - 5:56 PM |
Re: Lock Down and Gun Found at BSHS
i feel that if this was let out, i guarantee that parents would pull there kid out of that place faster than anything...so what would happen to a school with no students? I wonder if this all has to do what the principle did...by lifting the dress code. Now thugs can wear their pants below there ass [i guess that's cool to them] I am 100% sure if the principle of last year was there now, none of this would happen
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Heaven's Messenger 777
IP: 74.196.1.145 Nov 1st, 2007 - 6:47 PM |
Re: Lock Down and Gun Found at BSHS
As far as I can tell, opinions on the Baggy Saggy clothes vary like night and day. I, for one, don't appreciate seeing someone's undies while they look like they don't know how to dress themselves. Another point to make is you don't know what is hidden in those Saggy Baggy clothes. "!" would argue that it doesn't matter and that it is a violation of your civil rights as the ACLU would have a field day with this subject matter. The QUESTION thus becomes, what is appropriate and what is not, and who gets to decide? Frankly, there is no way to win on this issue either way. Since some towns are already planning or passing ordinances to ban the saggy baggy wearing style, they will probably be fodder for the ACLU and all left leaning folks. America has lost its "purity". We have folks embracing the GAY/LESBIAN parts of our society, which are decadent and immoral, especially in the eyes of our Creator (He said so Himself). Why do you think He destroyed Sodom and Gamorrah by fire? It was because of GAY/LESBIAN societies that existed in those towns at the time. I won't second guess our Creator, but I would imagine by His own Words, He is not happy with that part of our society either. So here we have those who want "Anything Goes" and those who want to follow a path of decorum. Before I jump into the fray, I ask, "Is this what my Creator and my Salvation want and expect of me?","Is it acceptable to them?". Our country was founded on Judeo-Christian ideals and beliefs. Our RIGHTS are given to us by our Creator. Man has done nothing over the centuries but muck it all up by inserting his own laws before those of our Creator. Look at what happened to Solomon's kingdom when he married outside his culture and allowed other cultures to bring in their Pagan ways and rituals. Our Creator destroyed Solomon's kingship, wealth and vessels. Our Creator sent the northern 10 tribes of Israel into the winds (some of them are now in America, the British Isles and northern Europe). |
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IP: 70.247.134.73 Nov 4th, 2007 - 12:44 PM |
Re: Lock Down and Gun Found at BSHS
Two letters to the editor in this weekend's edition of The Big Spring Herald address the recent incident(s) at Big Spring High School: This letter http://www.bigspringherald.com/content/view/88153/81/ mentions "a gang fight between two gangs" and seems to confirm that there was an increased police presence. In this letter http://www.bigspringherald.com/content/view/88148/81 the writer expresses concern about a day when her honor roll daughter no longer felt safe and that the writer found "it appalling that attendance clerks at the high school would be so disrespectful to the parents that are only trying to keep their child out of harm’s way." Sorry, but it's sounding like the fight involved more than two youths. Why hasn't a representative of the BSISD administration released a definitive public statement? |
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IP: 70.247.134.73 Nov 4th, 2007 - 2:24 PM |
Re: Lock Down and Gun Found at BSHS
http://www.earlyamerica.com/review/summer97/secular.html "Little-Known U.S. Document Signed by President Adams Proclaims America's Government Is Secular" 
"Some Religious activists try to extricate the concept of separation between church and State by claiming that those words do not occur in the Constitution. Indeed they do not, but neither does it exactly say "freedom of religion," yet the First Amendment implies both. As Thomas Jefferson wrote in his Autobiography, in reference to the Virginia Act for Religious Freedom: "Where the preamble declares, that coercion is a departure from the plan of the holy author of our religion, an amendment was proposed by inserting "Jesus Christ," so that it would read "A departure from the plan of Jesus Christ, the holy author of our religion;" the insertion was rejected by the great majority, in proof that they meant to comprehend, within the mantle of its protection, the Jew and the Gentile, the Christian and Mohammedan, the Hindoo and Infidel of every denomination." James Madison, perhaps the greatest supporter for separation of church and State, and whom many refer to as the father of the Constitution, also held similar views which he expressed in his letter to Edward Livingston, 10 July 1822: "And I have no doubt that every new example will succeed, as every past one has done, in shewing that religion & Govt will both exist in greater purity, the less they are mixed together." --------------------------------------------------- http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.stopthereligiousright.org/ARTICLE%252011.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.stopthereligiousright.org/&h=163&w=252&sz=31&hl=en&start=20&um=1&tbnid=tVonolDK_ks9eM:&tbnh=72&tbnw=111&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dtreaty%2Bof%2Btripoli%26svnum%3D10%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26rls%3DRNFA,RNFA:1970--2,RNFA:en%26sa%3DN "Whereas the governments of the past were coercive regarding society's uniformity and individual conformity, the new nation put a stop to that. There is no Christian tradition in the US Constitution; it only protects it in people's personal lives of faith. The Constitution offers no role in promoting any religious belief. It only protects those who engage in them within their personal lives. This government and its laws are laid out in no other place but the United States Constitution. Any law made by other lawmaking powers that doesn't meet the standards of the Constitution has to be thrown out. In fact, the Christian religious tests for oaths of office found in colonial laws are now gone because they were banned by the Constitution. While the religious right quotes Justice Joseph Story's claim that Christianity and English Common law are intimately connected, they omit two important things: The first regards the feud between Story and Jefferson regarding Christianity and Common law. Jefferson's historically accurate claim that common law existed before England was Christianized is never mentioned by the accomodationists. Jefferson was correct because English Common Law originated in Roman law when Britain was a part of the Roman Empire." |
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Heaven\'s Messenger 777
IP: 74.196.1.145 Nov 4th, 2007 - 4:39 PM |
Re: Lock Down and Gun Found at BSHS
To "!": To be SECULAR in today's society is like wishing a heap of camel dung would fall upon you! I let the Federalist Letters speak for themselves. The US Constitution, to this very day, does NOT have a clause for the separation of Church and State. It is a separation that stems from the FREEDOM of RELIGION ... the STATE or GOVERNMENT is not supposed to start one, design one, throw their weight behind one. Each of US is to have our own beliefs where religion is concerned, without GOVERNMENT intervention. Where the GOVERNMENT has interviened is in giving Churches 501c Tax status ... they dictate via the 501c status clause that a Church may not get into politics or preach politics from the pulpit or else they will lose their 501c status.
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*!*
IP: 70.247.134.240 Nov 8th, 2007 - 3:48 AM |
Re: Lock Down and Gun Found at BSHS
Will any parents, concerned citizens, or future candidate-challengers attend the Thursday, November 8 BSISD school board meeting and demand full disclosure regarding just what has been going on at the high school? |
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