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IP: 70.243.103.43

Oct 14, 07 - 9:45 PM

FHWA finds City of Big Spring "not in compliance with the ADA"

Below are the scans of the three page response letter to a local couple dated OCT 9 2007 from Brenda F. Armstead, Director Investigations and Adjudications. The words printed in blue at the top of the first page of the letter reads "U.S. Department of Transportation Federal Highway Administration 1200 New Jersey Avenue, S.E. Washington, DC 20590" Out of respect for privacy, I have "whited out" the couple's name and address as well Ms. Armstead's signature. It appears that the City has 90 days to implement the FHWA's recommendations.

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Rita

IP: 75.110.247.213

Oct 14th, 2007 - 10:47 PM

Re: FHWA finds City of Big Spring "not in compliance with the ADA"

Is it possible to obtain newspaper articles re: those persons that were struck crossing the streets?

"!"

IP: 69.155.97.34

Oct 23rd, 2007 - 10:10 PM

Re: FHWA finds City of Big Spring "not in compliance with the ADA"

I heard several "ADA" mentions at this afternoon's city council meeting. The "ADA" seemingly slipped sideways into a few discussions, if memory serves. I wonder if the City of Big Spring has now been presented an offer they can't refuse?

*...*

IP: 68.94.153.103

Oct 24th, 2007 - 6:27 AM

Re: FHWA finds City of Big Spring "not in compliance with the ADA"

Fixing a safe walkway for wheelchairs and the hanicap
people from the Canterbury's to H-E-B should have been
fixed years ago.
This comes under the heading (NEGLECT) on the city
council.
This should bring the State Protective Service in
real quick. WHY ARE THEY NOT HERE? they can't all
play golf.
I would like to see one council member try to
get from Canterbury to H-E-B in a wheelchair.
I do not live at Canterbury,
I am not in a wheelchair,
I am not hancicape,
I do like to see justice done.
THANKS *!*, you go after the big problems.

Rita

IP: 75.110.247.213

Oct 24th, 2007 - 12:06 PM

Re: FHWA finds City of Big Spring "not in compliance with the ADA"

But at least our city has it's priorities in order, it's MUCH more important to have a new clubhouse at the newly improved golf course.

I'm SOOOO glad the new clubhouse will be ADA compliant 'cause I'm SURE the majority of our disabled citizens will be flocking there

JE

IP: 68.94.153.151

Oct 24th, 2007 - 3:31 PM

Re: FHWA finds City of Big Spring "not in compliance with the ADA"

Possibly we could house inmates at the newly rennovated golf course.

Holy Crap

IP: 75.110.246.205

Oct 24th, 2007 - 7:13 PM

Re: FHWA finds City of Big Spring "not in compliance with the ADA"

That is funny JE! You crack me up!!!!

Can I point out a few things real quick...thanks...

The city....and the county.....are 2 different governing entities. Does the class understand that? Just like JE spends his money on comedy lessons, and I spend mine on normal things. The city can not use the money for the golf course on the jail...OK? Is that simple enough? Great.

If the clubhouse is built, taxes will not go up. But I bet a flier will be mailed out telling everyone else otherwise, and then after everyone throws them away, someone will dig them out of the trash and put them on the counter at KFC.

Building a clubhouse is stupid. The city, (notice I said city, not county), should use that money to erect a pure gold statue of Dig 'Em on the courthouse lawn.

I agree the city needs to be ADA compliant. No doubt. Our city's handicapped folk need to get around, and be able to access buildings. But I am failing to see why it is their responsibility to make sure Cantebury residents can get to HEB. While they are at it, why don't they build a yellow brick road to Wal Mart as well. Not being mean, but not the city's problem.

I love you guys.

2020

IP: 75.18.53.5

Oct 24th, 2007 - 7:51 PM

Re: FHWA finds City of Big Spring "not in compliance with the ADA"

Not being mean but certainly being ignorant to facts and the rule of law when it comes to the ADA. I guess what you were really trying to say is, Why can't people with disabilities just stay at home. It never ceases to amaze me that someone who portrays themselves as normal, enlightened and well informed would have the balls (or lack of) to equate equal access to building a yellow brick road. If you are up to the challange, I have a wheelchair I would be happy to put you in for a 24 hour trial period and let you loose on the corner of 10th and Lancaster or any other street of your choosing. Then you can wax poetically to all of us on just how easy it is to be a handicapped person in Big Spring. You seem to have a great deal of opinion but **** little information.

Holy Crap

IP: 75.110.246.205

Oct 24th, 2007 - 8:30 PM

Re: FHWA finds City of Big Spring "not in compliance with the ADA"

Aha, I offend. Tell me why the city should make it to where people can go from Cantebury to HEB. No matter what they do, it is a danger. You can try to turn it around any way you want. Go ahead, scream ignorance and intolerant all you want. I am not saying that handicapped people should sit at home. Use your ******* head before you open your mouth. ADA compliance in the city is important. It doesn't take an idiot to figure that out. But paying special attention to one cross walk is kind of missing the point. My grandmother was at Cantebury for many years. I have seen the people that live there. I would have had a fit if she tried to walk to HEB. 90 percent of the people I saw there before she passed away I feel the same way about.

So before you get on your high horse about standing up for your rights...take the time to read what I wrote. There are at least 10 intersections that I can think of off the top of my head that are dangerous for anyone to cross, much less someone with a disability.

You can challege me to a 24 hour wheelchair-a-thon all ya want. My point was, it is not the city's responsibility to see to it that people at Cantebury get to HEB. You turn it into me being insensitive to the handicap's needs. Take your pity party elsewhere. That crap doesn't work on me.

Rita

IP: 75.110.247.213

Oct 24th, 2007 - 9:00 PM

Re: FHWA finds City of Big Spring "not in compliance with the ADA"

HC, if the city council passes a resolution to support the building of a new county jail...because the city wants to "get out of the jail business", then it seems they could spend SOME money towards building it. I know they will pay to house persons there but some money to make it happen would help too. If we can mix cit and county prisoners, whay can't we mix city and county money to make it happen!

And, YES, persons with disabilities should be able to go ANYWHERE, HEB happens to be convenient for those with disabilities that might live in Canterberry. Have you ever had reason to use a walker, or cane, or wheelchair...if not, give it a try for a day and then get back to us.

"!"

IP: 69.155.97.34

Oct 24th, 2007 - 10:53 PM

Re: FHWA finds City of Big Spring "not in compliance with the ADA"

Holy Crap wrote: "...The city can not use the money for the golf course on the jail...OK? Is that simple enough? Great."

HC, How do you explain the city-county landfill partnership? The city-county Senior Center partnership?

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Holy Crap wrote: "If the clubhouse is built, taxes will not go up..."

The money is apparently being borrowed from a rainy day fund or the like [how will that affect our bond rating?]-- and we can't be certain that taxes won't go up: what happens when the flocculator or some other critical element of Big Spring infrastructure fails? We won't be able to use the money which is to be spent on the new golf course clubhouse/ "TIKI HUT BAR" so the City would likely be forced to raise taxes. Are you comfortable using tax dollars to build a building which will sell alcoholic beverages?

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Holy Crap wrote: "...But I am failing to see why it is their responsibility to make sure Cantebury residents can get to HEB. While they are at it, why don't they build a yellow brick road to Wal Mart as well. Not being mean, but not the city's problem."

I don't think the City thought--or at least wanted to acknowledge-- it was their problem either. Problem is, obeying federal laws is not an optional enterprise. This reality will soon come home to roost on the City. Meantime, if you would like to educate yourself, open the following link and study the facts:

http://www.usdoj.gov/crt/ada/pcatoolkit/chap6chklist.htm

I have no doubt that the City will comply. I would hope sooner for the sake of the taxpayers because penalties can be $50,000 for each violation, if I'm not mistaken. You can see that with potentially hundreds or even thousands of violations, it would be in the City of Big Spring's interest to be very cooperative. Also, I know I wouldn't want to lie to an agent of the federal government conducting an investigation. Is a lie of omission a federal offense? It can be. Lies of omission can also raise red flags and trigger further and wider investigations.

2020

IP: 75.18.53.5

Oct 24th, 2007 - 10:57 PM

Re: FHWA finds City of Big Spring "not in compliance with the ADA"

"It doesn't take an idiot to figure that out."
There, you have said it. You don't rank even idiot status. The fact is I do not need to tell you why the City is required to be compliant to ADA law. The City can do that for you or you may make a call to the United States Justice Department. The City of Big Spring is fully aware that they are in serious violations of the American with Disabilities Act and have been ignoring the letter of the law for 17 years.
Both the City and County have recently been cited for Civil Rights Violations directly conneccted to the ADA law. You don't beleive the City needs to do provide equal access for the handicapped and you know, for 17 years they were of the same mind set. However, the law doesn't agree with either of you. It doesn't take an idiot to know, if you break the law and you get caught, you pay the consequence. But maybe they don't even rank idiot status. Afterall, they are only a reflection of the people who voted them into office.

"!"

IP: 69.155.97.34

Oct 24th, 2007 - 11:02 PM

Re: FHWA finds City of Big Spring "not in compliance with the ADA"

ADDM to my immediately prior post:

I am unsure if alcoholic beverages will be sold in the new clubhouse at the municipal golf course, but I believe that is the likely plan. If I am mistaken, my apologies. Even if the new clubhouse is a T-Totaler affair, building a new clubhouse at the golf course is a low priority item, in my opinion.

JE

IP: 68.94.153.151

Oct 25th, 2007 - 4:51 PM

Re: FHWA finds City of Big Spring "not in compliance with the ADA"

For your information, I save and invest my money. I am actually a huge penny pincher.

The comedy comes naturally, just like HC seems to have the natural ability to dumb ass his way into any argument.

Holy Crap

IP: 75.110.246.205

Oct 25th, 2007 - 6:29 PM

Re: FHWA finds City of Big Spring "not in compliance with the ADA"

HA! You cease to amaze me.

2020 - Read my post. I am FOR ADA compliance. PRO compliance. For...pro...all for it...lovin the idea. OK? You might be in a wheelchair, but that does not mean you cannot comprehend my point. I never said anything about being anti-handicapped. In fact, quite the opposite. I spent many years pushing my dad around in a wheelchair. I COMPLETLEY understand the day to day frustrations of many of the buildings in this city. Nevermind, you aren't paying attention anyways. You hear what you want to hear.

"!", I read your link. Point taken. Thank you. That still does not change my opinion that the people at Cantebury should not be walking to HEB. I would like to see Cantebury assist with this in some way. It is dangerous for those folks, no matter what modifications are made. That is my point on that subject. It is a SAFTEY concern, not a "I hate the hanciapped and they should stay at home" concern. For the record, that is why I like you "!", you will point to something and say "this is why I feel the way I do, or here is a link to what is a fact". I was proven to be mistaken, and that is fine. You didn't try turning my words around and make me out to be a monster. Learn from this man 2020.

I don't have a problem with tax dollars being used to build a clubhouse, alcohol or not. I am opposed to $500,000 being spent on it. I would like to see why it costs that much. A new golf course should have a new clubhouse. Makes sense, and it will make cents. Like it or not, the new golf course will be a money maker when it re-opens. But for the record, no, I am not for this clubhouse at this point in time.

As far as city/county ventures go, obviously they work hand in hand on things, but it is not up to the city to fund the county, and if I am not mistaken, it is illegal. I COULD BE WRONG..so don't tee off on me about that, I have to do some checking.

In closing, 2020, I apologize if I came off like I am not sensitive to the handicapped. Not my intention. But please take a second to realize what I am saying. For whatever reason, people drive like a bat out hell around HEB, and when my grandmother was there, I would personally take someone to HEB when I was visiting her if I saw them trying to walk over there. It is DANGEROUS. I don't think the city can do anything but start busting people over there more often for driving reckless. Just about all the people at Cantebury need assistance of some sort, and I have to see them walking all the way to HEB...for their saftey...not for lack of caring about them. There is a big difference.

JE.....I love you man. Keep the jokes coming.

*!*

IP: 70.247.134.240

Nov 6th, 2007 - 11:30 PM

Re: FHWA finds City of Big Spring "not in compliance with the ADA"

UPDATE: Attempting to confirm that on October 17, 2007 Big Spring Mayor Russ McEwen and Howard County Judge Mark Barr were served papers re ADA compliance by a special legal courier October 17, 2007.

Heaven\'s Messenger 777

IP: 74.196.1.145

Nov 7th, 2007 - 4:28 AM

Re: FHWA finds City of Big Spring "not in compliance with the ADA"

Yes ... now that the new Taj Mahal Jail Center has passed the bond issue vote, our roving reporters for the local ad stations should be able to verify, from the source or from the assigns that they did infact get served with papers by the feds.

yellow dog

IP: 64.12.116.12

Nov 7th, 2007 - 6:21 PM

Re: FHWA finds City of Big Spring "not in compliance with the ADA"

you are right,it will be very interesting to see if they will report on it

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*!* IP: 70.243.103.43 Oct 14, 07 - 9:45 PM	FHWA finds City of Big Spring "not in compliance with the ADA" Below are the scans of the three page response letter to a local couple dated OCT 9 2007 from Brenda F. Armstead, Director Investigations and Adjudications. The words printed in blue at the top of the first page of the letter reads "U.S. Department of Transportation Federal Highway Administration 1200 New Jersey Avenue, S.E. Washington, DC 20590" Out of respect for privacy, I have "whited out" the couple's name and address as well Ms. Armstead's signature. It appears that the City has 90 days to implement the FHWA's recommendations.
Rita IP: 75.110.247.213 Oct 14th, 2007 - 10:47 PM	Re: FHWA finds City of Big Spring "not in compliance with the ADA" Is it possible to obtain newspaper articles re: those persons that were struck crossing the streets?
"!" IP: 69.155.97.34 Oct 23rd, 2007 - 10:10 PM	Re: FHWA finds City of Big Spring "not in compliance with the ADA" I heard several "ADA" mentions at this afternoon's city council meeting. The "ADA" seemingly slipped sideways into a few discussions, if memory serves. I wonder if the City of Big Spring has now been presented an offer they can't refuse?
*...* IP: 68.94.153.103 Oct 24th, 2007 - 6:27 AM	Re: FHWA finds City of Big Spring "not in compliance with the ADA" Fixing a safe walkway for wheelchairs and the hanicap people from the Canterbury's to H-E-B should have been fixed years ago. This comes under the heading (NEGLECT) on the city council. This should bring the State Protective Service in real quick. WHY ARE THEY NOT HERE? they can't all play golf. I would like to see one council member try to get from Canterbury to H-E-B in a wheelchair. I do not live at Canterbury, I am not in a wheelchair, I am not hancicape, I do like to see justice done. THANKS !, you go after the big problems.
Rita IP: 75.110.247.213 Oct 24th, 2007 - 12:06 PM	Re: FHWA finds City of Big Spring "not in compliance with the ADA" But at least our city has it's priorities in order, it's MUCH more important to have a new clubhouse at the newly improved golf course. I'm SOOOO glad the new clubhouse will be ADA compliant 'cause I'm SURE the majority of our disabled citizens will be flocking there
JE IP: 68.94.153.151 Oct 24th, 2007 - 3:31 PM	Re: FHWA finds City of Big Spring "not in compliance with the ADA" Possibly we could house inmates at the newly rennovated golf course.
Holy Crap IP: 75.110.246.205 Oct 24th, 2007 - 7:13 PM	Re: FHWA finds City of Big Spring "not in compliance with the ADA" That is funny JE! You crack me up!!!! Can I point out a few things real quick...thanks... The city....and the county.....are 2 different governing entities. Does the class understand that? Just like JE spends his money on comedy lessons, and I spend mine on normal things. The city can not use the money for the golf course on the jail...OK? Is that simple enough? Great. If the clubhouse is built, taxes will not go up. But I bet a flier will be mailed out telling everyone else otherwise, and then after everyone throws them away, someone will dig them out of the trash and put them on the counter at KFC. Building a clubhouse is stupid. The city, (notice I said city, not county), should use that money to erect a pure gold statue of Dig 'Em on the courthouse lawn. I agree the city needs to be ADA compliant. No doubt. Our city's handicapped folk need to get around, and be able to access buildings. But I am failing to see why it is their responsibility to make sure Cantebury residents can get to HEB. While they are at it, why don't they build a yellow brick road to Wal Mart as well. Not being mean, but not the city's problem. I love you guys.
2020 IP: 75.18.53.5 Oct 24th, 2007 - 7:51 PM	Re: FHWA finds City of Big Spring "not in compliance with the ADA" Not being mean but certainly being ignorant to facts and the rule of law when it comes to the ADA. I guess what you were really trying to say is, Why can't people with disabilities just stay at home. It never ceases to amaze me that someone who portrays themselves as normal, enlightened and well informed would have the balls (or lack of) to equate equal access to building a yellow brick road. If you are up to the challange, I have a wheelchair I would be happy to put you in for a 24 hour trial period and let you loose on the corner of 10th and Lancaster or any other street of your choosing. Then you can wax poetically to all of us on just how easy it is to be a handicapped person in Big Spring. You seem to have a great deal of opinion but **** little information.
Holy Crap IP: 75.110.246.205 Oct 24th, 2007 - 8:30 PM	Re: FHWA finds City of Big Spring "not in compliance with the ADA" Aha, I offend. Tell me why the city should make it to where people can go from Cantebury to HEB. No matter what they do, it is a danger. You can try to turn it around any way you want. Go ahead, scream ignorance and intolerant all you want. I am not saying that handicapped people should sit at home. Use your ******* head before you open your mouth. ADA compliance in the city is important. It doesn't take an idiot to figure that out. But paying special attention to one cross walk is kind of missing the point. My grandmother was at Cantebury for many years. I have seen the people that live there. I would have had a fit if she tried to walk to HEB. 90 percent of the people I saw there before she passed away I feel the same way about. So before you get on your high horse about standing up for your rights...take the time to read what I wrote. There are at least 10 intersections that I can think of off the top of my head that are dangerous for anyone to cross, much less someone with a disability. You can challege me to a 24 hour wheelchair-a-thon all ya want. My point was, it is not the city's responsibility to see to it that people at Cantebury get to HEB. You turn it into me being insensitive to the handicap's needs. Take your pity party elsewhere. That crap doesn't work on me.
Rita IP: 75.110.247.213 Oct 24th, 2007 - 9:00 PM	Re: FHWA finds City of Big Spring "not in compliance with the ADA" HC, if the city council passes a resolution to support the building of a new county jail...because the city wants to "get out of the jail business", then it seems they could spend SOME money towards building it. I know they will pay to house persons there but some money to make it happen would help too. If we can mix cit and county prisoners, whay can't we mix city and county money to make it happen! And, YES, persons with disabilities should be able to go ANYWHERE, HEB happens to be convenient for those with disabilities that might live in Canterberry. Have you ever had reason to use a walker, or cane, or wheelchair...if not, give it a try for a day and then get back to us.
"!" IP: 69.155.97.34 Oct 24th, 2007 - 10:53 PM	Re: FHWA finds City of Big Spring "not in compliance with the ADA" Holy Crap wrote: "...The city can not use the money for the golf course on the jail...OK? Is that simple enough? Great." HC, How do you explain the city-county landfill partnership? The city-county Senior Center partnership? ------------------------------------------ Holy Crap wrote: "If the clubhouse is built, taxes will not go up..." The money is apparently being borrowed from a rainy day fund or the like [how will that affect our bond rating?]-- and we can't be certain that taxes won't go up: what happens when the flocculator or some other critical element of Big Spring infrastructure fails? We won't be able to use the money which is to be spent on the new golf course clubhouse/ "TIKI HUT BAR" so the City would likely be forced to raise taxes. Are you comfortable using tax dollars to build a building which will sell alcoholic beverages? --------------------------------------------------- Holy Crap wrote: "...But I am failing to see why it is their responsibility to make sure Cantebury residents can get to HEB. While they are at it, why don't they build a yellow brick road to Wal Mart as well. Not being mean, but not the city's problem." I don't think the City thought--or at least wanted to acknowledge-- it was their problem either. Problem is, obeying federal laws is not an optional enterprise. This reality will soon come home to roost on the City. Meantime, if you would like to educate yourself, open the following link and study the facts: http://www.usdoj.gov/crt/ada/pcatoolkit/chap6chklist.htm I have no doubt that the City will comply. I would hope sooner for the sake of the taxpayers because penalties can be $50,000 for each violation, if I'm not mistaken. You can see that with potentially hundreds or even thousands of violations, it would be in the City of Big Spring's interest to be very cooperative. Also, I know I wouldn't want to lie to an agent of the federal government conducting an investigation. Is a lie of omission a federal offense? It can be. Lies of omission can also raise red flags and trigger further and wider investigations.
2020 IP: 75.18.53.5 Oct 24th, 2007 - 10:57 PM	Re: FHWA finds City of Big Spring "not in compliance with the ADA" "It doesn't take an idiot to figure that out." There, you have said it. You don't rank even idiot status. The fact is I do not need to tell you why the City is required to be compliant to ADA law. The City can do that for you or you may make a call to the United States Justice Department. The City of Big Spring is fully aware that they are in serious violations of the American with Disabilities Act and have been ignoring the letter of the law for 17 years. Both the City and County have recently been cited for Civil Rights Violations directly conneccted to the ADA law. You don't beleive the City needs to do provide equal access for the handicapped and you know, for 17 years they were of the same mind set. However, the law doesn't agree with either of you. It doesn't take an idiot to know, if you break the law and you get caught, you pay the consequence. But maybe they don't even rank idiot status. Afterall, they are only a reflection of the people who voted them into office.
"!" IP: 69.155.97.34 Oct 24th, 2007 - 11:02 PM	Re: FHWA finds City of Big Spring "not in compliance with the ADA" ADDM to my immediately prior post: I am unsure if alcoholic beverages will be sold in the new clubhouse at the municipal golf course, but I believe that is the likely plan. If I am mistaken, my apologies. Even if the new clubhouse is a T-Totaler affair, building a new clubhouse at the golf course is a low priority item, in my opinion.
JE IP: 68.94.153.151 Oct 25th, 2007 - 4:51 PM	Re: FHWA finds City of Big Spring "not in compliance with the ADA" For your information, I save and invest my money. I am actually a huge penny pincher. The comedy comes naturally, just like HC seems to have the natural ability to dumb ass his way into any argument.
Holy Crap IP: 75.110.246.205 Oct 25th, 2007 - 6:29 PM	Re: FHWA finds City of Big Spring "not in compliance with the ADA" HA! You cease to amaze me. 2020 - Read my post. I am FOR ADA compliance. PRO compliance. For...pro...all for it...lovin the idea. OK? You might be in a wheelchair, but that does not mean you cannot comprehend my point. I never said anything about being anti-handicapped. In fact, quite the opposite. I spent many years pushing my dad around in a wheelchair. I COMPLETLEY understand the day to day frustrations of many of the buildings in this city. Nevermind, you aren't paying attention anyways. You hear what you want to hear. "!", I read your link. Point taken. Thank you. That still does not change my opinion that the people at Cantebury should not be walking to HEB. I would like to see Cantebury assist with this in some way. It is dangerous for those folks, no matter what modifications are made. That is my point on that subject. It is a SAFTEY concern, not a "I hate the hanciapped and they should stay at home" concern. For the record, that is why I like you "!", you will point to something and say "this is why I feel the way I do, or here is a link to what is a fact". I was proven to be mistaken, and that is fine. You didn't try turning my words around and make me out to be a monster. Learn from this man 2020. I don't have a problem with tax dollars being used to build a clubhouse, alcohol or not. I am opposed to $500,000 being spent on it. I would like to see why it costs that much. A new golf course should have a new clubhouse. Makes sense, and it will make cents. Like it or not, the new golf course will be a money maker when it re-opens. But for the record, no, I am not for this clubhouse at this point in time. As far as city/county ventures go, obviously they work hand in hand on things, but it is not up to the city to fund the county, and if I am not mistaken, it is illegal. I COULD BE WRONG..so don't tee off on me about that, I have to do some checking. In closing, 2020, I apologize if I came off like I am not sensitive to the handicapped. Not my intention. But please take a second to realize what I am saying. For whatever reason, people drive like a bat out hell around HEB, and when my grandmother was there, I would personally take someone to HEB when I was visiting her if I saw them trying to walk over there. It is DANGEROUS. I don't think the city can do anything but start busting people over there more often for driving reckless. Just about all the people at Cantebury need assistance of some sort, and I have to see them walking all the way to HEB...for their saftey...not for lack of caring about them. There is a big difference. JE.....I love you man. Keep the jokes coming.
*!* IP: 70.247.134.240 Nov 6th, 2007 - 11:30 PM	Re: FHWA finds City of Big Spring "not in compliance with the ADA" UPDATE: Attempting to confirm that on October 17, 2007 Big Spring Mayor Russ McEwen and Howard County Judge Mark Barr were served papers re ADA compliance by a special legal courier October 17, 2007.
Heaven\'s Messenger 777 IP: 74.196.1.145 Nov 7th, 2007 - 4:28 AM	Re: FHWA finds City of Big Spring "not in compliance with the ADA" Yes ... now that the new Taj Mahal Jail Center has passed the bond issue vote, our roving reporters for the local ad stations should be able to verify, from the source or from the assigns that they did infact get served with papers by the feds. Email: HM777@suddenlink.net
yellow dog IP: 64.12.116.12 Nov 7th, 2007 - 6:21 PM	Re: FHWA finds City of Big Spring "not in compliance with the ADA" you are right,it will be very interesting to see if they will report on it