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Jul 21, 07 - 5:12 PM

Municipal Auditorium-City Hall Complex: The Good, Bad & Ugly

As I was going by the Municipal Auditorium last week, I happened to look up and see a broken window. I thought I'd take the opportunity to share the problem here and to comment on some other aspects of the complex. Of course, I'm hoping for some good discussion about the strengths and weaknesses of my observations/comments. There's a grand and noble strategy in here too--somewhere. :)

Here's the broken window, the middle rectangular one. Also note that what appears to be a 'boarded-up' round [rose?] window is also visible. If it was not a window, the what was it? Note the a pigeon and it's droppings. Under the red roofing tiles look for what appear to be cast stone lion head and clam shell details not so apparent to the unaided, street level eye.

Speaking of other artful detail, take a look at the City Hall's entry portal red doors and capping Renaissance(?) figures:

With the above photos, that some attention to detail on the part of the original architects was given is obvious. Forward to the more recent future and "our" upkeep of the Municipal Complex is shown to be a bit lacking with the broken window, pigeon droppings, and boarded window. But if "our" transgessions stopped there! Compare the look of the "Municipal Auditorium" sign to the cartoonishly bad modern choice seen in the "City Hall" and "310 Nolan" signage. And a few feet removed, we have yet another style sign altogether. Is anyone else concerned that out-of-towners and visiting dignitaries might drive by our lone grand public building and be moved to subliminally think or consciously ponder,"Why don't they just go ahead and change the name of their town to Rhubarb or Hayseed"? Oh yeah, the 1962 gray indoor cigarette ash can within 20' of the door of City Hall really looks lovely sitting there out of plumb in the grass.

Another discordant note, this time an uninspired retaining wall. Correction, I shouldn't say "uninspired": TXDoT would be proud of our flattery.

I thought I'd end with an positive note--the stone filled right-of-way area between the sidewalk and the street nearest the corner of E. 3rd and Johnson looks pretty good. Sure, it has some flaws, but it's not Heart of the City park crapper or Amphitheater tack-on! If the stones were nearly imperceptibly more closely spaced, more flush with grade at the perimeter, and just a bit more regular around the tree and the streetlight fit better...and if it were swept of dirt and de-weeded... but overall, at least this lone note does jump out and betray and offend like "our" regular repeating symphony of ritual(?) uglification.

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Jul 22nd, 2007 - 4:26 PM

Re: Municipal Auditorium-City Hall Complex: The Good, Bad & Ugly

That's no lion's head! Could it be the patron god of theatre, Dionysos? What a hoot. Who would've thunk it: "pagan" dieties and symbols on Big Spring's most public building...(developing)

Well, perhaps a lion's head of sorts:

http://www.loggia.com/myth/dionysos2.html

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Jul 23rd, 2007 - 3:44 AM

Re: Municipal Auditorium-City Hall Complex: The Good, Bad & Ugly

Dionysos is also the Greek god of wine, right? Grapes:

A star of 8 points within a star of 8 points =
The Star of Ishtar?
Octagram?
Hex sign?
...(developing)

boosie

IP: 75.110.248.228

Jul 23rd, 2007 - 12:19 PM

Re: Municipal Auditorium-City Hall Complex: The Good, Bad & Ugly

The pigeon droppings would be a good project for a volunteer. How about it, "I"?

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IP: 70.255.97.197

Jul 23rd, 2007 - 1:42 PM

Re: Municipal Auditorium-City Hall Complex: The Good, Bad & Ugly

CORRECTION: In my original post there was a critical error which is corrected as follows: "...but overall, at least this lone note does NOT jump out and betray and offend like "our" regular repeating symphony of ritual(?) uglification."

I see that, at least on my browser, the photos I've uploaded seem to display at irregular intervals. I think this may be due to the size of the files and number of photos per post. My apologies.

boosie, I'm afraid that it's going to take someone professionally outfitted to clean our Auditorium at such a height [~30'] while doing no harm to the historic building. There are also some dark sooty-looking spots on other parts of the building which need to be gently removed, too.

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Jul 29th, 2007 - 12:34 AM

Re: Municipal Auditorium-City Hall Complex: The Good, Bad & Ugly

Does this image

http://www.markdefrates.com/pages/octagram.html

look familiar? Compare to the photo of the door of our Municipal Auditorium-City Hall complex below. Note the description "This is an alternative to the traditional eight pointed Star. ... should you extend all the lines till they meet one another you create a gateless design. Magick? You bet!!"

Free Image Hosting at allyoucanupload.com

Also compare this

http://www.markdefrates.com/pages/8ptstr.html

image with the Municipal Auditorium-City Hall photo and consider that "The 8 pointed star is a Gnostic symbol, known as the octagram of creation. It is related to Venus, and also sacred to Ishtar. In Nordic traditions the octagram is used to invoke magick and also as a protecting ideogram. Chaospheres have 8 points - order (90 degrees) and chaos (45 degrees)."

--------------------------------------------------------
The Meaning of Shape"

http://www.freewebs.com/mykal-laws/themeaningofshape.htm

"...and the bicursal octagram which is made with two squares, symbolizing conflict and separation."

Sigil of the Beast
http://www.freewebs.com/satansgraphix/Main.html

(developing ...)

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Jul 29th, 2007 - 4:06 AM

Re: Municipal Auditorium-City Hall Complex: The Good, Bad & Ugly

Winged serpents and, curiously, 8 petaled "flowers" also adorn the Municipal Auditorium

Because the winged serpents in the photo of the Municipal Auditorium, "have two bird-like legs, two wings, and "the hind end of a serpent or lizard," I'm thinking that "ours" my be called a "wyvern"

http://www.dragonsinn.net/fict-wyvern.htm

Yea or nay?

Also, the "flowers" are, you guessed it, perhaps more than flowers:

see symbol symbols 25:19 http://www.symbols.com/encyclopedia/25/2520.html

and

symbol 2529

http://www.symbols.com/encyclopedia/25/2520.html

(developing...)

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Jul 29th, 2007 - 3:15 PM

Re: Municipal Auditorium-City Hall Complex: The Good, Bad & Ugly

[tangential supporting element]

(excerpt) "There's one wavelength that gets everybody," Lieberman said, according to the newsletter. "Vlad calls it the evil color."

(full article)

Homeland Security Funds LED Light Saber

http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2007/07/homeland-secu-3.html

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Jul 31st, 2007 - 2:14 PM

Re: Municipal Auditorium-City Hall Complex: The Good, Bad & Ugly

CORRECTION: In an earlier post, I called attention to the similarity between the unusual 8 petaled "flowers" which adorn our City Complex and symbol #25:19 on symbols.com. This
http://www.symbols.com/encyclopedia/25/2519.html
is the correct url for the symbol.

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One of my friends viewed this thread an commented to me in an email that there is a head in the movie "The Exorcist" which looks like the head on our Municipal Auditorium. I am not too familiar with that movie, and he didn't elaborate, so I'm unsure if he is referring to an actor or some inanimate icon in the film.

From a similar Biblical interpretive perspective, I found the interesting article "Dragons and Winged Serpents"

http://www.harrypottermagic.org/dragons_and_serpents2.htm

(excerpt) "Watch out for things that use the SERPENT, the WINGED SERPENT or DRAGONS as symbols or decorations or part of a story. DRAGONS as real animals—do not exist— they are not real. But the BEING who uses them as his symbol is real! ...If whatever religion or practice you are involved with uses DRAGONS or SERPENTS as symbols or associates them with good: then you know it has its roots in the pocket of the FALLEN ANGEL, LUCIFER, who made a DEVIL out of himself and is pledged to destroy all good. Get out of there fast! And don’t look back!"

Magik and Withcraft Symbols and Sigils (click on photo to play video):

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Jul 31st, 2007 - 2:32 PM

Re: Municipal Auditorium-City Hall Complex: The Good, Bad & Ugly

8 point star shopping channel commercial (click on photo to view)

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Aug 5th, 2007 - 3:38 PM

Re: Municipal Auditorium-City Hall Complex: The Good, Bad & Ugly

http://www.williamhenry.net/cityofsecrets.html

(excerpt)

"In their book Talisman: Sacred Cities, Secret Faith Graham Hancock and Robert Bauval soundly document that the architecture of great cities such as Paris and Washington DC are secretly being used by Hermeticists, Masons and alchemists to transmit hidden knowledge from antiquity. They endowed these cities with spiritual power through architecture.

The designers of these ‘light centers’ (my term) used what the French alchemist Schwaller De Lubicz called “the Symbolique”, the use of mystical architecture as a means of knowledge transmission. Books, these craftsmen know, can be burned. Knowledge encoded in the shapes (geometry) and symbols of various mystical buildings and other constructions can stand for centuries. It’s a way of keeping myths alive and hiding secrets in plain sight that counts on the total blindness of the average individual to the esoteric language of symbols."

yellow dog

IP: 172.168.71.66

Aug 5th, 2007 - 7:48 PM

Re: Municipal Auditorium-City Hall Complex: The Good, Bad & Ugly

GREAT pix..........just what I have been saying"they" dont give a rats*** about this city as long as"they" can RULE WITH AN IRON FIST and the devil take all

yellow dog

IP: 205.188.116.12

Aug 13th, 2007 - 8:50 PM

Re: Municipal Auditorium-City Hall Complex: The Good, Bad & Ugly

Hey"New to Big Spring's" please take a look at all the "great" architecture here it is over whemling I am sure you will agree

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Aug 26th, 2007 - 3:09 PM

Re: Municipal Auditorium-City Hall Complex: The Good, Bad & Ugly

[Sound familiar?]

http://www.outlawjournalism.com/news/?p=2198

Is Local Legislature a Disguised Pagan Temple?

"...No one seemed to mind that a public institution representing political freedom; health and prosperity for Manitobans and their progeny was taken over by an occult society for its own bizarre purpose, at taxpayers expense. No one commented on the fact that the political heart of an ostensibly Christian society, (at least in 1912) should be represented by heathen symbolism."

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Clam Shell Symbolism [the shell alternating with the pagan head on the Big Spring City Hall-Municipal Auditorium complex]:

http://campus.udayton.edu/mary/questions/yq2/yq273.html

"The shell or clam shell has symbolic value in many cultures, from India (Vishnu carries a shell) to the moon god in Aztec culture. Its main reference is to vulva and matrix as life receiving and giving organs. ..."

~~~

The Symbolism of Shells

http://16stepper.deviantart.com/journal/7054009/

"As I noted yesterday, the cowrie shell was an early symbol of the feminine, particularly fertility. ...Aphrodite is born from the sea and is depicted in art on a scallop shell."

~~~

http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:pYcLeD9nVLkJ:www.onereed.com/articles/fib.html+8+petaled+flowers+symbol&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=8&gl=us#fn54

"...Maya numbers were placed in vertical lines, with space fillers somewhat analogous to our "zero," but which did not mean "nothing." Rather, the space filler-cipher meant "completion." And the completion symbol most commonly used was a shell. This is rather interesting, considering the fact that many shells are formulated according to the divine proportion, or Fibonacci sequence."

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Aug 27th, 2007 - 2:14 PM

Re: Municipal Auditorium-City Hall Complex: The Good, Bad & Ugly

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Sep 18th, 2007 - 2:55 AM

Re: Municipal Auditorium-City Hall Complex: The Good, Bad & Ugly

Can't wait until the plan for the new five field softball complex is made public...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11AUOiqH_Y0

Also, for obvious reasons, we need to book this singing devil for a Municipal Auditorium performance.

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Oct 31st, 2007 - 4:48 PM

Re: Municipal Auditorium-City Hall Complex: The Good, Bad & Ugly

Hope everyone will keep an eye out for any unusual goings on in the vicinity of the municipal auditorium-city hall complex this evening!

Ditto for

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*!* IP: 75.36.98.42 Jul 21, 07 - 5:12 PM	Municipal Auditorium-City Hall Complex: The Good, Bad & Ugly As I was going by the Municipal Auditorium last week, I happened to look up and see a broken window. I thought I'd take the opportunity to share the problem here and to comment on some other aspects of the complex. Of course, I'm hoping for some good discussion about the strengths and weaknesses of my observations/comments. There's a grand and noble strategy in here too--somewhere. :) Here's the broken window, the middle rectangular one. Also note that what appears to be a 'boarded-up' round [rose?] window is also visible. If it was not a window, the what was it? Note the a pigeon and it's droppings. Under the red roofing tiles look for what appear to be cast stone lion head and clam shell details not so apparent to the unaided, street level eye. Speaking of other artful detail, take a look at the City Hall's entry portal red doors and capping Renaissance(?) figures: With the above photos, that some attention to detail on the part of the original architects was given is obvious. Forward to the more recent future and "our" upkeep of the Municipal Complex is shown to be a bit lacking with the broken window, pigeon droppings, and boarded window. But if "our" transgessions stopped there! Compare the look of the "Municipal Auditorium" sign to the cartoonishly bad modern choice seen in the "City Hall" and "310 Nolan" signage. And a few feet removed, we have yet another style sign altogether. Is anyone else concerned that out-of-towners and visiting dignitaries might drive by our lone grand public building and be moved to subliminally think or consciously ponder,"Why don't they just go ahead and change the name of their town to Rhubarb or Hayseed"? Oh yeah, the 1962 gray indoor cigarette ash can within 20' of the door of City Hall really looks lovely sitting there out of plumb in the grass. Another discordant note, this time an uninspired retaining wall. Correction, I shouldn't say "uninspired": TXDoT would be proud of our flattery. I thought I'd end with an positive note--the stone filled right-of-way area between the sidewalk and the street nearest the corner of E. 3rd and Johnson looks pretty good. Sure, it has some flaws, but it's not Heart of the City park crapper or Amphitheater tack-on! If the stones were nearly imperceptibly more closely spaced, more flush with grade at the perimeter, and just a bit more regular around the tree and the streetlight fit better...and if it were swept of dirt and de-weeded... but overall, at least this lone note does jump out and betray and offend like "our" regular repeating symphony of ritual(?) uglification.
*!* IP: 66.142.27.126 Jul 22nd, 2007 - 4:26 PM	Re: Municipal Auditorium-City Hall Complex: The Good, Bad & Ugly That's no lion's head! Could it be the patron god of theatre, Dionysos? What a hoot. Who would've thunk it: "pagan" dieties and symbols on Big Spring's most public building...(developing) Well, perhaps a lion's head of sorts: http://www.loggia.com/myth/dionysos2.html
*!* IP: 69.152.133.230 Jul 23rd, 2007 - 3:44 AM	Re: Municipal Auditorium-City Hall Complex: The Good, Bad & Ugly Dionysos is also the Greek god of wine, right? Grapes: A star of 8 points within a star of 8 points = The Star of Ishtar? Octagram? Hex sign? ...(developing)
boosie IP: 75.110.248.228 Jul 23rd, 2007 - 12:19 PM	Re: Municipal Auditorium-City Hall Complex: The Good, Bad & Ugly The pigeon droppings would be a good project for a volunteer. How about it, "I"?
"!" IP: 70.255.97.197 Jul 23rd, 2007 - 1:42 PM	Re: Municipal Auditorium-City Hall Complex: The Good, Bad & Ugly CORRECTION: In my original post there was a critical error which is corrected as follows: "...but overall, at least this lone note does NOT jump out and betray and offend like "our" regular repeating symphony of ritual(?) uglification." I see that, at least on my browser, the photos I've uploaded seem to display at irregular intervals. I think this may be due to the size of the files and number of photos per post. My apologies. boosie, I'm afraid that it's going to take someone professionally outfitted to clean our Auditorium at such a height [~30'] while doing no harm to the historic building. There are also some dark sooty-looking spots on other parts of the building which need to be gently removed, too.
*!* IP: 70.249.172.144 Jul 29th, 2007 - 12:34 AM	Re: Municipal Auditorium-City Hall Complex: The Good, Bad & Ugly Does this image http://www.markdefrates.com/pages/octagram.html look familiar? Compare to the photo of the door of our Municipal Auditorium-City Hall complex below. Note the description "This is an alternative to the traditional eight pointed Star. ... should you extend all the lines till they meet one another you create a gateless design. Magick? You bet!!" Also compare this http://www.markdefrates.com/pages/8ptstr.html image with the Municipal Auditorium-City Hall photo and consider that "The 8 pointed star is a Gnostic symbol, known as the octagram of creation. It is related to Venus, and also sacred to Ishtar. In Nordic traditions the octagram is used to invoke magick and also as a protecting ideogram. Chaospheres have 8 points - order (90 degrees) and chaos (45 degrees)." -------------------------------------------------------- The Meaning of Shape" http://www.freewebs.com/mykal-laws/themeaningofshape.htm "...and the bicursal octagram which is made with two squares, symbolizing conflict and separation." Sigil of the Beast http://www.freewebs.com/satansgraphix/Main.html (developing ...)
*!* IP: 70.249.172.144 Jul 29th, 2007 - 4:06 AM	Re: Municipal Auditorium-City Hall Complex: The Good, Bad & Ugly Winged serpents and, curiously, 8 petaled "flowers" also adorn the Municipal Auditorium Because the winged serpents in the photo of the Municipal Auditorium, "have two bird-like legs, two wings, and "the hind end of a serpent or lizard," I'm thinking that "ours" my be called a "wyvern" http://www.dragonsinn.net/fict-wyvern.htm Yea or nay? Also, the "flowers" are, you guessed it, perhaps more than flowers: see symbol symbols 25:19 http://www.symbols.com/encyclopedia/25/2520.html and symbol 2529 http://www.symbols.com/encyclopedia/25/2520.html (developing...)
*!* IP: 70.247.134.74 Jul 29th, 2007 - 3:15 PM	Re: Municipal Auditorium-City Hall Complex: The Good, Bad & Ugly [tangential supporting element] (excerpt) "There's one wavelength that gets everybody," Lieberman said, according to the newsletter. "Vlad calls it the evil color." (full article) Homeland Security Funds LED Light Saber http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2007/07/homeland-secu-3.html
*!* IP: 70.247.135.192 Jul 31st, 2007 - 2:14 PM	Re: Municipal Auditorium-City Hall Complex: The Good, Bad & Ugly CORRECTION: In an earlier post, I called attention to the similarity between the unusual 8 petaled "flowers" which adorn our City Complex and symbol #25:19 on symbols.com. This http://www.symbols.com/encyclopedia/25/2519.html is the correct url for the symbol. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ One of my friends viewed this thread an commented to me in an email that there is a head in the movie "The Exorcist" which looks like the head on our Municipal Auditorium. I am not too familiar with that movie, and he didn't elaborate, so I'm unsure if he is referring to an actor or some inanimate icon in the film. From a similar Biblical interpretive perspective, I found the interesting article "Dragons and Winged Serpents" http://www.harrypottermagic.org/dragons_and_serpents2.htm (excerpt) "Watch out for things that use the SERPENT, the WINGED SERPENT or DRAGONS as symbols or decorations or part of a story. DRAGONS as real animals—do not exist— they are not real. But the BEING who uses them as his symbol is real! ...If whatever religion or practice you are involved with uses DRAGONS or SERPENTS as symbols or associates them with good: then you know it has its roots in the pocket of the FALLEN ANGEL, LUCIFER, who made a DEVIL out of himself and is pledged to destroy all good. Get out of there fast! And don’t look back!" Magik and Withcraft Symbols and Sigils (click on photo to play video):
*!* IP: 70.247.135.192 Jul 31st, 2007 - 2:32 PM	Re: Municipal Auditorium-City Hall Complex: The Good, Bad & Ugly 8 point star shopping channel commercial (click on photo to view)
*!* IP: 65.70.97.57 Aug 5th, 2007 - 3:38 PM	Re: Municipal Auditorium-City Hall Complex: The Good, Bad & Ugly http://www.williamhenry.net/cityofsecrets.html (excerpt) "In their book Talisman: Sacred Cities, Secret Faith Graham Hancock and Robert Bauval soundly document that the architecture of great cities such as Paris and Washington DC are secretly being used by Hermeticists, Masons and alchemists to transmit hidden knowledge from antiquity. They endowed these cities with spiritual power through architecture. The designers of these ‘light centers’ (my term) used what the French alchemist Schwaller De Lubicz called “the Symbolique”, the use of mystical architecture as a means of knowledge transmission. Books, these craftsmen know, can be burned. Knowledge encoded in the shapes (geometry) and symbols of various mystical buildings and other constructions can stand for centuries. It’s a way of keeping myths alive and hiding secrets in plain sight that counts on the total blindness of the average individual to the esoteric language of symbols."
yellow dog IP: 172.168.71.66 Aug 5th, 2007 - 7:48 PM	Re: Municipal Auditorium-City Hall Complex: The Good, Bad & Ugly GREAT pix..........just what I have been saying"they" dont give a rats*** about this city as long as"they" can RULE WITH AN IRON FIST and the devil take all
yellow dog IP: 205.188.116.12 Aug 13th, 2007 - 8:50 PM	Re: Municipal Auditorium-City Hall Complex: The Good, Bad & Ugly Hey"New to Big Spring's" please take a look at all the "great" architecture here it is over whemling I am sure you will agree
*!* IP: 70.246.65.90 Aug 26th, 2007 - 3:09 PM	Re: Municipal Auditorium-City Hall Complex: The Good, Bad & Ugly [Sound familiar?] http://www.outlawjournalism.com/news/?p=2198 Is Local Legislature a Disguised Pagan Temple? "...No one seemed to mind that a public institution representing political freedom; health and prosperity for Manitobans and their progeny was taken over by an occult society for its own bizarre purpose, at taxpayers expense. No one commented on the fact that the political heart of an ostensibly Christian society, (at least in 1912) should be represented by heathen symbolism." ----------------------------------------------------- Clam Shell Symbolism [the shell alternating with the pagan head on the Big Spring City Hall-Municipal Auditorium complex]: http://campus.udayton.edu/mary/questions/yq2/yq273.html "The shell or clam shell has symbolic value in many cultures, from India (Vishnu carries a shell) to the moon god in Aztec culture. Its main reference is to vulva and matrix as life receiving and giving organs. ..." ~~~ The Symbolism of Shells http://16stepper.deviantart.com/journal/7054009/ "As I noted yesterday, the cowrie shell was an early symbol of the feminine, particularly fertility. ...Aphrodite is born from the sea and is depicted in art on a scallop shell." ~~~ http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:pYcLeD9nVLkJ:www.onereed.com/articles/fib.html+8+petaled+flowers+symbol&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=8&gl=us#fn54 "...Maya numbers were placed in vertical lines, with space fillers somewhat analogous to our "zero," but which did not mean "nothing." Rather, the space filler-cipher meant "completion." And the completion symbol most commonly used was a shell. This is rather interesting, considering the fact that many shells are formulated according to the divine proportion, or Fibonacci sequence."
*!* IP: 70.247.134.114 Aug 27th, 2007 - 2:14 PM	Re: Municipal Auditorium-City Hall Complex: The Good, Bad & Ugly . .
*!* IP: 68.90.139.8 Sep 18th, 2007 - 2:55 AM	Re: Municipal Auditorium-City Hall Complex: The Good, Bad & Ugly Can't wait until the plan for the new five field softball complex is made public... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11AUOiqH_Y0 Also, for obvious reasons, we need to book this singing devil for a Municipal Auditorium performance.
*!* IP: 70.251.8.120 Oct 31st, 2007 - 4:48 PM	Re: Municipal Auditorium-City Hall Complex: The Good, Bad & Ugly Hope everyone will keep an eye out for any unusual goings on in the vicinity of the municipal auditorium-city hall complex this evening! Ditto for