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Mr. Robinson

IP: 68.111.113.172

Dec 11, 06 - 7:52 AM

Letters to the Editor in the Weekend Herald,. Dec,9th. - 10th. 2006

To the Editor,

In your last weekend edition a letter was posted from a Mr. Scott Ragle: Acreely, TX.

In response to his notations of the group known as Big Spring Freedom I feel his flattery of calling us children well this old man takes it as a sign of not aging but feeling young enough to make the right changes for the benefits’ of all concerned which is the citizens of Big Spring,
As a Retired Military and Ex-New York State Emergency Response Officer who has made this city his home, I am not backing down nor will I allow the disabled and elderly as well as the youth of tomorrow be disappointed in making this city a better place to live as well as bring trying to lower the taxes by bring business to our fair city.

I never criticized the counsel members nor the mayor I just feel its time for a change and the change is now weather or not this person > Mr. Scott Ragle wishes to sign the petition or not makes no difference if change is what he is afraid of then by all means stay in your home and order out and don’t take part in a new brighter future for it will come and I always keep my promises.

The people of Big Spring are speaking out weather you get your information from a squirrel or Fortune cookie Makes no difference we as a city have every right to speak out its our first amendment as well as our ninth amendment states we are allowed to be heard and make our own choices not be spoken for like puppets.

The mayor stated him self that we elected them there for we have the right to recall by petition , and for your last remark we have the right as people chosen already to run and they will win, so I end here with this last request to Mr. Scott Ragle Acreely… Try writing fiction then speaking for the people you have no idea what your talking about do you really know your neighbor’s as well as you think>?

Sincerely: Mr. W. Robinson
Big Spring, Texas

Shannon

IP: 68.225.62.124

Dec 17th, 2006 - 3:19 AM

Re: Letters to the Editor in the Weekend Herald,. Dec,9th. - 10th. 2006

Will's letter made the paper!

Way to go Will!

Shannon

IP: 12.190.113.67

Jan 9th, 2007 - 10:26 AM

Re: Letters to the Editor in the Big Spring Herald

Here's one I sent in on 12-29-06 that hasn't made print yet.
(Not sure if it ever will.)

To The Editor:

In recent weeks, I have seen several letters to this publication in opposition to the recent recall effort. As an organizer of the recall effort, I feel that it is incumbent upon me to clarify certain points.

At no point in the recall effort, have we ever promoted smoking. Not once. In fact, on many occasions I have addressed the dangers of smoking and second-hand smoke. Allow me to reiterate: Smoking is bad for you. Second-hand smoke is bad for you. Everyone involved in the effort agrees with these statements, smokers and non-smokers alike. So, if the recall had just been about smoking, there wouldn’t have been a recall at all.

However, the recall was not about smoking.

The recall was and is in fact about the right of business owners being allowed to choose which customers they wish to serve and about the mayor and city council overstepping their bounds by removing that right.

Big Spring had a workable smoking ordinance on the books prior to September 25th. This ordinance was crafted by the city council with the input of local businesses, to the betterment of all involved. Had this happened with the recent
amendment to the smoking ordinance, there wouldn’t have been a recall.

Our nearby neighbor, Midland, has a smoking ordinance. Their ordinance allows businesses to choose between being smoking, non-smoking, or, after meeting certain requirements, allowing both by establishing smoking sections. Had the city council passed an ordinance like the one in Midland, there wouldn’t have been a recall.

The city of Austin has a smoking ordinance. It was created by citizen initiative and voted into effect by the citizens of Austin. When given the opportunity to do the same here, the Mayor argued against putting it before the voters, even though he supposedly had surveys that indicated that most of the citizens would be in favor of the ordinance. Had it gone to a vote by the citizens and passed, there might have been some grumbling about it, but there would not have been a recall.

Many cities in this state have provisions that allow the citizens to initiate and repeal ordinances by circulating petitions and putting the ordinance in question up for a vote by the citizens. Big Spring’s city charter does not have those provisions and the Mayor has stated unequivocally that he would be against adding those provisions in the charter. Those provisions would have allowed our group to target the ordinance itself, rather than the elected supporters of the ordinance. Once again, there would not have been a recall.

To make a long story short, the Mayor and the council members who voted for the smoking ordinance did so strictly on their own volition. They did not seriously consider any citizen input, and they don’t seem to want our votes, other than to keep them in office or to approve their ill-considered bond issues. Obviously, they thought that, yet again, the citizens of Big Spring would just sit back and take it. This time, they were wrong.

The vehement letters that this publication has received from non-smokers have not addressed a single issue that the recall was about. The group circulating the petitions was comprised of both smokers and non-smokers. During my time circulating the petitions, we had just as many non-smokers sign the petitions and say, “I’m not a smoker, but what they (the council) did wasn’t right.” I certainly agree with them.

Many people are correct in the fact that most cities have smoking ordinances. Big Spring has had one on the books for over thirteen years. Some, like Midland’s, are better than others. But the simple fact is that this is our city and we have an opportunity and a responsibility to make it better and fair for all concerned. As such, our group will soon be meeting to consider a second recall attempt on the council people who signed the ordinance. However, everyone should remember that the most that we as citizens can do is put our local lawmakers back on the ballot. That would allow all of the citizens of Big Spring the opportunity to voice their opinion by voting in support of or in opposition to the actions of the Mayor and the council.

That, dear friends, is a decision I can live with.

Sincerely,

Shannon D. Thomason

Jordan

IP: 70.249.173.90

Jan 9th, 2007 - 1:22 PM

Re: Re: Letters to the Editor in the Big Spring Herald

Just a question regarding the plans for a second recall. If McEwen is NOT ousted & is revoted as mayor & the recall again fails on the councilmen, will you make a third attempt? Maybe a fourth? At what point do you think it's reasonible to give up & wait to back new candidates when their term is up?

Shannon

IP: 24.255.70.49

Jan 9th, 2007 - 3:32 PM

Re: Letters to the Editor in the Weekend Herald,. Dec,9th. - 10th. 2006

We've only discussed going as far as a second attempt...but third and fourth...hmmm...might have to think about those.

Great idea Jordan!

=Shannon=

Chris

IP: 68.90.138.126

Jan 9th, 2007 - 8:05 PM

Re: Letters to the Editor in the Weekend Herald,. Dec,9th. - 10th. 2006

Excellent letter Shannon. When will you know if your second recall drive is a go? Your quip to jordan was

Jordan

IP: 70.255.102.214

Jan 10th, 2007 - 8:30 PM

Re: Re: Letters to the Editor in the Weekend Herald,. Dec,9th. - 10th. 2006

My, Chris, aren't we overflowing with spite! I suppose this is a good place to be with your own, then. I was honestly curious about the amount of determination behind the recall efforts. There was no judgement intended. If all public questions are going to be answered with such a consistently negative attitude, is Shannon really mature or professional enough to run for a position of authority? If Shannon does decide to run, I hope people will be refered to this forum to get a more in-depth view of their candidate & his followers.

JE

IP: 70.249.172.133

Jan 10th, 2007 - 9:05 PM

Re: Letters to the Editor in the Weekend Herald,. Dec,9th. - 10th. 2006

Chris and Shannon have both conducted themselved very respectfully on here. You on the other hand have been rude other members on here multiple times, and have been very prone to incendiary remarks.

I hope people come on here too and see what Shannon and his followers are like, and get a gander at what Russ's followers are like.

I certainly hope you don't get hurt falling off your high horse.

Jordan

IP: 70.255.102.214

Jan 10th, 2007 - 11:46 PM

Re: Re: Letters to the Editor in the Weekend Herald,. Dec,9th. - 10th. 2006

I beg to differ. The majority of my questions or comments have been answered in a rather snippy, disrespectful manner. Without wasting a terrible amount of time, here are some examples:

Shannon:
"Did you actually read the post Jordan??” ; “You seem to be arguing these facts from a position of ignorance.”

Chris:
"I'll opt out of your workers' paradise wealth redistribution schemes, thank you." ;
"BTW, Jordan, last time I checked, "1/5" = 20%." ; "All this makes me wonder if English is your mother tongue? "

These are just bits taken from a small number of very negative postings. Because I made it clear at the beginning that I did not completely agree with everything they said, nothing I say can possibly be right. This the objective, reasonable manner future leaders should be exhibiting.

While I cannot happily nod along with everything either of them has said, if you go back and read a bit, you will find that I have happily agreed with some points they have made. Not because I like them or don’t like them, but because they are honestly good points. Also, by “incendiary remarks” I assume you believe I am starting conflict or controversy on the forum? Looking at the present controversy, I believe that’s what they call “the pot calling kettle black.” Is discussion not the point of this forum? If everyone involved is willing, conflict can often breed the best solutions. At this point, it seems like people are more eager to argue for their group than to think as individuals about what might help this city.

Oh, & JE, watch your step. My high horse tends to leave quite a mess.

Shannon

IP: 24.255.70.49

Jan 11th, 2007 - 1:34 AM

Re: Letters to the Editor in the Weekend Herald,. Dec,9th. - 10th. 2006

Jordan:

"Just a question regarding the plans for a second recall. If McEwen is NOT ousted & is revoted as mayor & the recall again fails on the councilmen, will you make a third attempt? Maybe a fourth? At what point do you think it's reasonible to give up & wait to back new candidates when their term is up?"

So what exactly was negative about my response? If you don't appreciate my attempt at humor, I apologize, but I did answer. So I'll say it again. We've only discussed going as far as a second attempt.

"The majority of my questions or comments have been answered in a rather snippy, disrespectful manner."

Actually, the majority of your questions or comments have been MADE in a rather snippy, disrespectful manner. THAT is "the pot calling the kettle black".

Wasn't there a discussion recently about "the golden rule"?

So, I'm going to ask that EVERYONE to refer to the thread "Welcome to the Freedom Forums" and take the very simple rules there to heart, back up, take a deep breath, and make an effort to make positive contributions to these forums before I have to start banning IPs.

Consider this a warning to everyone.

=Shannon=

Jordan

IP: 68.90.138.161

Jan 12th, 2007 - 12:19 AM

Re: Re: Letters to the Editor in the Weekend Herald,. Dec,9th. - 10th. 2006

No, I don't care for smart alec attempts at humor when a straight question is asked. If you do intend to run for mayor, I doubt many of those you'd be dealing with would appreciate those kind of responses at every turn. Anyone running for mayor should be held to a higher standard & be able to address concerns productively without the low blows.

Yup, you're right, I haven't been entirely respectful to certain people on this forum. I don't have a great amount of patience when people try to reinterpret things I say just for the sake of starting a personal argument that has very little to do with the actual issues at hand. Admittedly, it's a horrible short-coming of mine. Consider me repremanded.

Let's all play nice now.

Tim

IP: 152.131.9.194

Jan 11th, 2007 - 10:58 AM

Re: Letters to the Editor in the Weekend Herald,. Dec,9th. - 10th. 2006

Censorship at its best.

Shannon

IP: 12.190.113.67

Jan 11th, 2007 - 11:41 AM

Re: Letters to the Editor in the Weekend Herald,. Dec,9th. - 10th. 2006

No Tim, simply an effort to maintain decorum, just as rules of order are used in meetings.

I'm not opposed to people posting in opposition to my views or anyone else's, but I do require it to be done in a respectful and intelligent manner. Anything else just results in sniping back and forth and that is ultimately unproductive.

If that is the kind of posting anyone wants to participate in, then kindly go start your own forums (you can do it for free on Yahoo) and have at it.

=Shannon=

dewey

IP: 69.152.133.32

Jan 11th, 2007 - 11:52 AM

Re: Letters to the Editor in the Weekend Herald,. Dec,9th. - 10th. 2006

maybe the people who want change really don't want change at all. we can only hope this is not going to be the same old broken recording with new singers. most of us have tired of being shut out and chastised because our views differ from our elected officials and or the moderators of a public forum. it is not positive or productive for a moderator to take a swipe at someone, just because they interped a question or statement to be snippy.

JE

IP: 70.249.172.133

Jan 11th, 2007 - 6:11 PM

Re: Letters to the Editor in the Weekend Herald,. Dec,9th. - 10th. 2006

Dewey,
You interpreted one of my posts to be snippy and went on a tirade about how you are surprised I didn't include women and cripples

You have absolutely no room to talk about anything relating to the matter of tolerance of others opinions

Chris

IP: 70.255.103.156

Jan 11th, 2007 - 9:22 PM

Re: Letters to the Editor in the Weekend Herald,. Dec,9th. - 10th. 2006

Guess who posted this 1/2/2007 in the Russ McEwen thread: "You obviously did not understand the post in question. Perhaps you are not a native English speaker? In that case, let me be the first to say welcome to our country."

Go ahead, see for yourself.

I suppose when Jordan uses such language it isn't caustic or "disrespectful"--at least in his mind.

The Golden Rule, Jordan? Yeah, right.

Jordan

IP: 68.90.138.161

Jan 12th, 2007 - 12:24 AM

Re: Re: Letters to the Editor in the Weekend Herald,. Dec,9th. - 10th. 2006

If Shannon can plead that his comments were in the name of humor, so can I.

& I must say that I find it very interesting that you seem to assume I'm a man. I don't believe I've ever said one way or the other. As a social experiment, what gives you that impression?

dewey

IP: 69.152.133.32

Jan 11th, 2007 - 10:25 PM

Re: Letters to the Editor in the Weekend Herald,. Dec,9th. - 10th. 2006

what?

cindy

IP: 69.55.193.39

Jan 11th, 2007 - 11:15 PM

Re: Letters to the Editor in the Weekend Herald,. Dec,9th. - 10th. 2006

maybe the herald only posts what it wants to. Censorship? I worked there for over 3 years. Tell me why stuff does not get printed. Cindy

Chris

IP: 70.255.103.156

Jan 12th, 2007 - 1:28 AM

Re: Letters to the Editor in the Weekend Herald,. Dec,9th. - 10th. 2006

"If Shannon can plead that his comments were in the name of humor, so can I." You can plead, but do you? And if you were to [so plead], would you be being even modestly honest?

"The majority of my questions or comments have been answered in a rather snippy, disrespectful manner." So sad. So very, very sad, Jordan.

"& I must say that I find it very interesting that you seem to assume I'm a man. I don't believe I've ever said one way or the other. As a social experiment, what gives you that impression?"

As I recall, in English, it is understood that the pronoun "he" references male or female when the gender is not known. Some choose to use "s/he," but I've found this is far from convention. In conversations with a friend, I have several times opined that it is likely your gender is female. These days, we rather too freely through around the words "man" and "woman," and certainly "gentleman" and "lady," I think.

Jordan

IP: 75.18.53.97

Jan 12th, 2007 - 12:44 PM

Re: Re: Letters to the Editor in the Weekend Herald,. Dec,9th. - 10th. 2006

"You can plead, but do you? And if you were to [so plead], would you be being even modestly honest?"

As honest as Shannon is about it, no doubt. & what's your excuse for being so consistantly negative, might I ask? Feel free to join in us the cop-out humor box if it will allow you to be more civil in future postings (as we have been so graciously warned by our moderator).

"As I recall, in English, it is understood that the pronoun "he" references male or female when the gender is not known. Some choose to use "s/he," but I've found this is far from convention. In conversations with a friend, I have several times opined that it is likely your gender is female. These days, we rather too freely through around the words "man" and "woman," and certainly "gentleman" and "lady," I think."

In modern day English, it is not proper to lable unknowns as males. I don't expect you to know this piece of politically correct fluff, however. It's just curious how many assumptions we are willing to make based merely on the content of online conversation. Just the fact that you would guess at my gender--something which has no bearing on our discussions--is intriguing to me. It's nice to know I've left some sort of impression on you, regardless of how correct it may or may not be.

I digress, though. As has been said before, let's stick to the topics at hand & keep civility in mind.

Chris

IP: 65.70.96.67

Jan 12th, 2007 - 10:45 AM

Re: Letters to the Editor in the Weekend Herald,. Dec,9th. - 10th. 2006

Oops! I typed "through" instead of "throw."

Chris

IP: 70.247.135.16

Jan 12th, 2007 - 6:08 PM

Re: Letters to the Editor in the Weekend Herald,. Dec,9th. - 10th. 2006

jordan wrote: "In modern day English, it is not proper to lable unknowns as males. I don't expect you to know this piece of politically correct fluff, however."

What do you think I was acknowledging by writing, "Some choose to use "s/he," but I've found this is far from convention."? I think it fairly obvious that I am aware of the corruption. I wonder, do the PC language police advocate using "peoplekind" over "mankind"?

jordan wrote: "It's just curious how many assumptions we are willing to make based merely on the content of online conversation. Just the fact that you would guess at my gender--something which has no bearing on our discussions--is intriguing to me. It's nice to know I've left some sort of impression on you, regardless of how correct it may or may not be."

Hmm, I'm amazed that you might think gender/sex has no bearing on political debate.

http://uncpress.unc.edu/chapters/reingold_representing.html

http://web.missouri.edu/~psycorie/files/Geary%20%5B2006,%20Hormones%20&%20Beh%5D.pdf

Jordan

IP: 75.18.53.97

Jan 12th, 2007 - 11:41 PM

Re: Re: Letters to the Editor in the Weekend Herald,. Dec,9th. - 10th. 2006

The links you provided were very interesting, but have little bearing on our discussions on the forum. The first article was on female politicians while the second was merely on basic gender cognitive differences. If gender is something you are actually concerned about in the political area, perhaps it would be better addressed in the mayoral candidate thread.

Though I'm starting to feel like a broken record saying this, how about we stop the personal attacks & try to address the real issues like adults.

JE

IP: 70.249.172.133

Jan 12th, 2007 - 7:10 PM

Re: Letters to the Editor in the Weekend Herald,. Dec,9th. - 10th. 2006

Jordan Wrote:"Last I checked, Shannon was a traditionally female name. From reading this site, articles from the Herald, & discussions with others, gender was never mentioned. Thank you for clarifying. Forgive my assumption & try to focus on the issues at hand instead."

Yet now you chastise someone for their assumptions of gender based on names?

Jordan

IP: 75.18.53.97

Jan 12th, 2007 - 11:30 PM

Re: Re: Letters to the Editor in the Weekend Herald,. Dec,9th. - 10th. 2006

JE, where do you see anyone being chastised? I can't say that I care what gender Chris thinks I am. It was just something that struck me as interesting.

I can't see how prolonging this discussion of my sex is helping us address the political issues of our city. Perhaps you'd like to direct your comments to another topic.

JE

IP: 70.249.172.133

Jan 13th, 2007 - 4:13 PM

Re: Letters to the Editor in the Weekend Herald,. Dec,9th. - 10th. 2006

Jordan Wrote:"JE, where do you see anyone being chastised?"

Right here.

Jordan wrote: "In modern day English, it is not proper to lable unknowns as males. I don't expect you to know this piece of politically correct fluff, however."

Yet, you are guilty of the exact same thing you are accusing him of.

Jordan

IP: 65.70.97.112

Jan 13th, 2007 - 11:40 PM

Re: Re: Letters to the Editor in the Weekend Herald,. Dec,9th. - 10th. 2006

*sigh* JE, if anything, that might have been taken as criticizing his grammar. In truth, I'm just not used to writing back & forth using the old-fashioned terms (like referring to unknown people in the masculine form).

Instead of arguing over phrasing, how about we do something useful instead. I would love to hear your opinion on what characteristics we should be looking for in a mayoral candidate, if you would care to redirect to the appropriate thread.

Chris

IP: 70.255.99.109

Jan 14th, 2007 - 3:57 AM

Re: Letters to the Editor in the Weekend Herald,. Dec,9th. - 10th. 2006

jordan wrote, "*sigh* JE, if anything, that might have been taken as criticizing his grammar. In truth, I'm just not used to writing back & forth using the old-fashioned terms (like referring to unknown people in the masculine form)."

With all due respect, jordan, I feel that you should consider honing your writing and usage skills before playing board grammarian. For instance, be certain to use "people" and "person(s)" correctly. Remember that "he" and "she" are singular, not plural, pronouns.

I do note that you did not answer the question if you employ "peoplekind" instead of the long-accepted, rhetorically-beautiful word "mankind." ? I suppose "humankind" could be very handy but for that pesky "man" in it, eh?

Now that that's settled, 'cain't we all just git along'?

Jordan

IP: 69.154.41.253

Jan 14th, 2007 - 2:14 PM

Re: Re: Letters to the Editor in the Weekend Herald,. Dec,9th. - 10th. 2006

"With all due respect, jordan, I feel that you should consider honing your writing and usage skills before playing board grammarian. For instance, be certain to use "people" and "person(s)" correctly. Remember that "he" and "she" are singular, not plural, pronouns."

First I'm criticized for being too proper, now I'm not proper enough? Would you prefer a research article or something on the level of the general public? It seems you find fault with either.

"I do note that you did not answer the question if you employ "peoplekind" instead of the long-accepted, rhetorically-beautiful word "mankind." ? I suppose "humankind" could be very handy but for that pesky "man" in it, eh?"

Actually, I tend to refer to the human race more often than any of your alternatives. & while we're on the topic of unanswered questions, you never did give you excuse for being so consistently negative in your posts.

However, I don't see a point in dragging this conversation out. An extended examination of my grammatical use isn't going to provide solutions to improve Big Spring. As I mentioned to JE, I am still very interested in hearing what charactistics we should be looking for in a new mayor. Feel free to refer to the appropriate thread.

JE

IP: 70.249.172.133

Jan 14th, 2007 - 1:44 PM

Re: Letters to the Editor in the Weekend Herald,. Dec,9th. - 10th. 2006

I have no problem sticking with the issues. I was just merely sticking to the issue brought up about tolerance of others opinions, the ones whom were doing the accusing were the most intolerant, now that it has been proven you wish to go back to the original issue.
That is fine by me, next time reinforce your argument before you start the crying game and inaccurately start accusing Shannon and others of misdeeds on here.

Jordan

IP: 69.154.41.253

Jan 14th, 2007 - 2:05 PM

Re: Re: Letters to the Editor in the Weekend Herald,. Dec,9th. - 10th. 2006

I must say I'm amazed how many responses have been posted on my gender & grammatical use, while the political issues have been grossly neglected. I believe that in itself has gone a long way to prove my point. Trashing the "opposing side" is more important than coming to solutions and working to improve this city. Again, I would love to hear your opinion on a public issue, rather than your opinion of me as a person. That is, supposedly, why we're all here.

Chris

IP: 70.255.98.102

Jan 14th, 2007 - 11:41 PM

Re: Letters to the Editor in the Weekend Herald,. Dec,9th. - 10th. 2006

Do these frescoes by Ambrogio Lorenzetti offer us any instruction?

Effects of Good Government on the City Life:

http://www.wga.hu/art/l/lorenzet/ambrogio/governme/2effect1.jpg

http://www.wga.hu/art/l/lorenzet/ambrogio/governme/2effect2.jpg
______________________________________________________

Effects of Bad Government on the City Life:

http://www.wga.hu/art/l/lorenzet/ambrogio/governme/4effect1.jpg

http://www.wga.hu/art/l/lorenzet/ambrogio/governme/4effect2.jpg

JE

IP: 70.249.172.133

Jan 15th, 2007 - 11:47 AM

Re: Letters to the Editor in the Weekend Herald,. Dec,9th. - 10th. 2006

Jordan wrote:"I must say I'm amazed how many responses have been posted on my gender & grammatical use, while the political issues have been grossly neglected."

YOU were the one that began that little debacle. I have no problem sticking with the issues, you are the one who has instigated all the things that you are now complaining about. It makes no sense.

Jordan

IP: 70.247.135.100

Jan 15th, 2007 - 1:05 PM

Re: Re: Letters to the Editor in the Weekend Herald,. Dec,9th. - 10th. 2006

Ah, but I have also been asking questions on other threads, rather than focusing solely on this wild goose. & I'm still waiting on answers.

Chris

IP: 69.155.182.192

Jan 15th, 2007 - 2:53 PM

Re: Letters to the Editor in the Weekend Herald,. Dec,9th. - 10th. 2006

Look closely at the photos of Ambrogio Lorenzetti's frecoes. Does Big Spring more resemble the Good or the Bad government? Unfortunately, this http://www.wga.hu/art/l/lorenzet/ambrogio/governme/4effect2.jpg one looks a bit too familiar, down to the 'rubble' in the road.

JE

IP: 70.249.172.133

Jan 16th, 2007 - 7:21 PM

Re: Letters to the Editor in the Weekend Herald,. Dec,9th. - 10th. 2006

I really don't see a comparison. I don't thinks have deteriorated down to the point of Russ being a horned devil and we have lost all civilized ways.

Chris

IP: 70.243.103.193

Jan 16th, 2007 - 9:47 PM

Re: Letters to the Editor in the Weekend Herald,. Dec,9th. - 10th. 2006

JE I wasn't suggesting it's a literal translation, and one person surely wouldn't be to blame. But is Big Spring, generally speaking, uptrending or downtrending? What has Big Spring done to reinvent itself and be proactive? Am I mistaken; didn't one of your earlier posts bemoan the familiar 'tax and spend'?

JE

IP: 70.249.172.133

Jan 17th, 2007 - 7:35 AM

Re: Letters to the Editor in the Weekend Herald,. Dec,9th. - 10th. 2006

This is true. It hasn't done much to itself. It has done a lot for special interest, but not for the citizens itself. My gripes with the current admin are:

Tax and Spend
Parking Ordinance
Golf Course
Desire to rennovate Hotel Settles (which obviously went out of business a long time ago due to not making enough money)
Water price increase on horrible water
Poor roadways
Tethering Law
Jail
Not allowing public votes on important ordinances

I see big spring on neither an upward on downward movement. I see it saying as it is now, and as it is now isn't perfect, but it isn't the worst either. It just needs some development and wise reinvestment in the community.

JE

IP: 68.94.153.151

Oct 13th, 2007 - 12:30 PM

Re: Letters to the Editor in the Weekend Herald,. Dec,9th. - 10th. 2006

I thought I would bring this back up, seeing as how I am pretty sure "jordan" was russ mcewen. I laughed at this when I re-read it.

"Oh, & JE, watch your step. My high horse tends to leave quite a mess."

How very true, it does seem Russ' high horse is leaving a terrible mess in it's wake.

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